Attention devs: Game Surveillance Unit re: open world Bots.

[AutumnLeaves]

Well it was fun while it lasted (sort of) but I refuse to renew my service with this game until SE acknowledges one of the major problem with this game, if I wanted to play with automated, mindless bots then then why the hell not stick with standard pc/console games and not waste anymore time or money in this playground for RMT's and lazy ass people who don't have enough talent to play this game legitimately, so so long SE, maybe in time if you develop an ounce of care for your customers I will return, but bloody unlikely, and for you people who do support botting, you can stick it where the sun don't shine...

[LegendWait]

Well it was fun while it lasted (sort of) but I refuse to renew my service with this game until SE acknowledges one of the major problem with this game, if I wanted to play with automated, mindless bots then then why the hell not stick with standard pc/console games and not waste anymore time or money in this playground for RMT's and lazy ass people who don't have enough talent to play this game legitimately, so so long SE, maybe in time if you develop an ounce of care for your customers I will return, but bloody unlikely, and for you people who do support botting, you can stick it where the sun don't shine...

So... yeah see ya.

What's the point for SE to say.. "umm yeah thats an issue we will fix, please look forward to it"

Bots are there, but they dont affect my game experience in any share or form, I dont see the point of being butthurt about it.

[HEC-]

Bots are there, but they dont affect my game experience in any share or form, I dont see the point of being butthurt about it.

It's saddly people like you not realizing that they DO indeed affect your game experiance and in a big way that leads tosuch massive botting like this. They're killing in game economy, leaving players becaue of bots means less subs fees resulting in less money for the game developers resulting in premature game dead.

What's sad is this thread. You all should really just give up. Your obviously part of a very, very small minority, literally like 0.00001% of population cares not to mention your wasting valuable play time whining about something that cannot be fixed. The majority of people don't care and some even enjoy the abundance of cheaper craft material / crystals / materia that no one really wants to farm. If anything you should bitch about how difficult it is to get materia etc which is what makes farming it profitable for gold sellers.

What's actually sad is people like you. According to you if we'd make a parallel to RL we should be happy to be able to purchase cheap stolen goods and complain to government about high prices or taxes ... If you care or not - it does affect you well (see above). By choosing to ingore the fact and doing nothing you're damaing yourself as well as all others.

[zer0patches]

What's actually sad is people like you. ...

Take a deep breath. Count to 5. It's a game.

I don't see the parallel. The goods aren't being stolen, they are being farmed the way the game was intended. There is an actual person running the automation software. They aren't hacking the servers and creating wealth out of thin air,their operating within the confines of the game and using software to expedite the process by using multiple accounts or a continual basis when some of us must sleep or work real jobs.

Is it fair? No,but life isn't fair.Just because it is against the rules doesn't mean it's illegal or that you should get your head chopped off for picking your neighbors flowers.

I disagree that botting damages the economy.What hurts the economy is people buying gold and paying crazy prices for stuff.You convince people to stop buying gold and the prices will plummet,until the gold farmers move on to profitable servers.

[Applesnap]

I disagree that botting damages the economy.What hurts the economy is people buying gold and paying crazy prices for stuff.

What you don't seem to realise is that they are directly damaging the economy. If they have such a large supply of materia (and they do, even by your own admission) they can control the price of it. More often than not, when RMT control the price on something, they gradually increase it to unsustainable amounts. Which forces lazy / stupid people buy gil to afford it. Making sense now?

Using third party tools to spiritbind afk is not "within the confines of the game". It's an exploit, it's cheating and it should be an instantly bannable offence. Full stop.

[zer0patches]

What you don't seem to realise ...

Supply does not drive demand. Just because Seller Y has a supply does not mean they can force you to spend X on it, you can always farm the item yourself. Buyers drive the market, not sellers. By your statement the problem is the "lazy / stupid people" which makes up a far greater percentage of your comrades than you would realize or else there would not be a market for it.

Being a programmer and server admin my definition of an exploit definitely does not match yours. Automating 'tasks' may be cheating but the punishment should fit the crime. You wouldn't sentence someone to death for for a misdemeanor in real life?

I would not consider it an exploit unless someone was intentionally glitching the game, modifying packets etc. which should be a bannable offense and easily detectable