Hey Yoshi, you said personal housing "will be far more affordable."

[Yolteotl]

At this rate, YoshiP will crack. He's only one human being.

OR Yoshi-P could take 2 seconds, catch his breath, and realize that proper implementation of content based on how it is marketed during production is more important than sticking to a STUPID 3 month patch window. He's going to break a 'promise' either way, but in games it's always more important to get the content right than the deadlines.

Complete tangent, but why are neither of the Tokyo Game Show 'LIVE' letters (including the one going on right now) not linked to be viewable?

[polyphonica]

OR Yoshi-P could take 2 seconds, catch his breath, and realize that proper implementation of content based on how it is marketed during production is more important than sticking to a STUPID 3 month patch window.

Honestly, I don't think the cycle is the problem. They have lots of different teams doing stuff in parallel, so batching things up to quarterly releases is as good as anything. Other than the major story elements, all the rest of the features get shuffled around into minor patches anyway.

In this case, delaying the feature further wasn't going to change anything given that they had decided on this methodology anyway, hence why the post was just "more capacity is coming." It's not like they had this big plan and were like "screw it, we have to release now because our patch cycle!"

[Yolteotl]

Honestly, I don't think the cycle is the problem. They have lots of different teams doing stuff in parallel, so batching things up to quarterly releases is as good as anything. Other than the major story elements, all the rest of the features get shuffled around into minor patches anyway.

In this case, delaying the feature further wasn't going to change anything given that they had decided on this methodology anyway, hence why the post was just "more capacity is coming." It's not like they had this big plan and were like "screw it, we have to release now because our patch cycle!"

Yea but personal housing isn't a 1st in the problem of implementation in contrast to marketing, every patch has a major portion that severely strays from what they tell you ahead of time for the implementation 'please look forward to it'. Then when the implementation happens it is always followed by a shallow excuse and yet another 'please look forward to it'. Just get it right the 1st time, everything about this game since 1.0's launch has been a waiting game for things to get better. Waiting is one thing, but waiting and then being disappointed by unappealing implementations and told to wait longer and 'maybe' it'll get better 'someday' is bad business.

don't get me wrong the whole direction they took personal housing was pathetic and if they really thought this the 'best' option they seriously need to reconsider their positions before they ruin this game beyond repair or leave. There really isn't a logical explanation as to why they didn't just instance personal housing, they instanced personal rooms and they instanced inn rooms. As Yoshi-P states himself 'the demand for personal housing will always continue to increase' so just instance it to where regardless of how high demand becomes they wont have to keep building infrastructure to provide it. You don't see "No Room in the Inn' signs because too many people have inn rooms lol... How a professional development team cannot understand this is beyond me.

My main point is for them to take their time and get it right. And the 'we have to release it now' was basically their excuse for implementing it without adequate wards implemented...

[Laraul]

When patch 2.1 came out and the housing prices we're revealed, everyone made a big fuss that the prices we're so astronomical. Complaints that the cost of the medium and larger lots we're so enormous riddled these very discussion forums? Remember anyone? Now it's nine months later, a large number of Free Companies own these lots, and it seems to have worked out well for a large consortium of the community.

This is that people. It'll work out in the end.

I loved the post about the party finder being used to market real estate. I'm sure something we've all seen, well never.

[Omegakiyohime]

Complete tangent, but why are neither of the Tokyo Game Show 'LIVE' letters (including the one going on right now) not linked to be viewable?

It was and tomorrow's will be too. The instructions for viewing them weren't as detailed as they could have been though. You needed a Niconico account (I signed up for a free one) and that basically allows you to watch the show. The sign up page is in english if that helps.

[Yolteotl]

"Please look forward to it' Defense.

AS a counter to your argument it is also a fact that surely the Dev's haven't forgotten how bad the ordeal was 9 months ago and yet they were stupid enough to repeat said mistake all over again 9 months later...

The variant now being that FC's were told that new wards were coming and maybe they can finally get a house, only to have it all sucked up by personal houses.

As was stated in another thread. Yoshi-P knew this was going to be bad, Yoshi-P premeditatedly prepared an apology letter before the patch went live knowing it was going to be bad, but he is the PRODUCER. If he of all people knew how bad this was going to be, he is the ONE person who could have stopped it to make it right.

It was and tomorrow's will be too. The instructions for viewing them weren't as detailed as they could have been though. You needed a Niconico account (I signed up for a free one) and that basically allows you to watch the show. The sign up page is in english if that helps.

Lol thanks i finally got it figured out, i just did the facebook registration (in case it wasn't in english) and not gonna lie, I 1/2 expected a 'region lock' but thankfully didn't happen.

[joshsecret]

i feel bad for yoshi-p.
there are bound to be countless reasons we are not privy to as to why things have turned out as they have.
mind you.. housing can go ____ itself and i think there needs to be another calamity to reset some stuff but still..
i can only guess from now on that yoshi-p and others will be veeeeery light on news and posts to prevent backing themselves into corners.

[Yolteotl]

i feel bad for yoshi-p.
there are bound to be countless reasons we are not privy to as to why things have turned out as they have.
mind you.. housing can go ____ itself and i think there needs to be another calamity to reset some stuff but still..
i can only guess from now on that yoshi-p and others will be veeeeery light on news and posts to prevent backing themselves into corners.

OR they could actually have GOOD news for a change lol (without having to lie to say it I mean).

People blamed Tanaka for EVERYTHING in 1.0 (regardless of what was provably forced by Wada and shareholders). Yoshi-P has clearly stated how he has much more control over ARR than Tanaka did for 1.0 but so many people foolishly feel sorry for Yoshi-P when he persistently alters the game for the worse. Charisma over-shadowing lies to your consumers will only last for so long.

[joshsecret]

OR they could actually have GOOD news for a change lol (without having to lie to say it I mean).

People blamed Tanaka for EVERYTHING in 1.0 (regardless of what was provably forced by Wada and shareholders). Yoshi-P has clearly stated how he has much more control over ARR than Tanaka did for 1.0 but so many people foolishly feel sorry for Yoshi-P when he persistently alters the game for the worse. Charisma over-shadowing lies to your consumers will only last for so long.

re: bold
but thats what i meant about being privy to info. those statements could have been 100% accurate at the time..
and then ____ happens.. budgets change. personnel changes. prospects change.
again, there is no white in my knight. bring on the 2nd calamity!! but things happen behind closed doors that we will never know.

[Yolteotl]

re: bold
but thats what i meant about being privy to info. those statements could have been 100% accurate at the time..
and then ____ happens.. budgets change. personnel changes. prospects change.
again, there is no white in my knight. bring on the 2nd calamity!! but things happen behind closed doors that we will never know.

True that, but even if closed-door alterations were made, they voluntarily decided not to disclose that 'adjustments variant from previous statements are needing to be made'. Once you say you are going to sell apples in a few months and u decide to sell durian instead, the people you were telling were going to get apples should at least be made aware they may not be getting apples even if you do not disclose they will be stuck with durian. Especially when u claim to your clientele that their input and feedback is supposedly a driving force for your decision making and yet u do nothing but disappoint same clientele with unwanted surprises.

Don't get me wrong, the divisions of ARR development that work on the UI, the music, the graphics, and the QoL issues (all presentation divisions) seem to do a really good job, but all actual content is bland. All the story since the actual launch story is very shallow and just some stupid water-downed lore trying to justify an EX unlock. Coil is there, it's challenging the 1st few times, but the story is empty and becomes repetitive whether your raid groups gets stuck at a particular stage or not. Crystal Tower is similar to Coil but it isn't even challenging the 1st time you do it. Side content like Chocobo Raising, Housing, Hunts, or Relic Enhancement is underwhelming, boring, uninnovative, and excessive on resources whether as a gil-sink or a time-sink (w/ an exception to Grade A & S Hunts where the reward is excessive). Gathering and Crafting at launch were designed so poorly that it was too easy, and since the Dev team can't seem to do anything innovative outside of presentation divisions, the 'fix' for this was to just require meld-caps as a time and gil sink, but once u have those melds the recipes are just as easy as the one's before them. It makes me feel sorry for the people who work in the 4 divisions of development that players immediately understand their jobs well done, to see the rest of the development team departments where the players immediately understand how underwhelmingly they are doing their job repeatably patch after patch after every single patch.

Also, as noted in Yoshi-P's second excuse letter, there is no mention of any 'changes' but that this is for some reason what was intended all along and that he views the community as being upset over semantics and he didn't mean what he said in the context of how he said it and somehow, someway his previous statement supposedly meant exactly what we got, which is total _____.