SE's most difinitive statement yet on parsers

[Mcshiggs]

arguing with myself

There is a link on the first page, not sure if you didn't read it, didn't click, or just refuse to believe it because it makes parsing cheating.

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...620.1397906412
We would also like to remind players that third-party tools that modify or parse game data violate the User Agreement, and that players who are found to be using these tools will be met with strict disciplinary action.

The act of parsing isn't cheating, the use a third party tool makes it cheating. Straight from the lodestone, any tools that modify or parse game data violate the User Agreement.
Now incase you didn't read the post I made earlier that gave the definition of cheating,

Definition of cheat: to break a rule or law usually to gain an advantage at something

So there you have it, when you use a third party tool, you are breaking the User Agreement, a list of rules you agree to when you play this game.
The reason people parse is that it provides a benefit or advantage. By definition since using a third party tool to parse breaks a rule and you gain an advantage it is cheating. If they ever allow an addon or implement an in game parser it will no longer be cheating because even though it would provide an advantage, it would no long be breaking a rule to do it.
I have laid this out pretty much as simply as I can, and if anyone can't see it, then wow.

No, i'll do one more. No, they would still be against the ToS. Only the one built for the addon API would be allowed. Parsing with something like XIVAPP or others like it, would still be classified under Third Party Programs and Disallowed. Again, nothing to do with the fact that it is a parser. But the fact it's a third party program. Everything you've posted even clearly STATES that, and you ignore it and try to use it for your own argument.

Read that one sentence you quoted from me very carefully, let all the words sink in, I said if they allow an add on or put one in game, it would no longer violate ToS, you are the one ignoring what people post. Not sure why you are bringing up the app, I never mentioned it there, I said the ones they ok would not violate ToS. You are either just so angry you can't prove your point you are ignoring what folks post and even imply stuff we never mention, or there is some disconnect between what you read and what you comprehend and retain. As for what you say about what I post states that it is against the rules because it is a third party program is exactly what I am attempting to get across. As long as it is against the User Agreement it is breaking the rules. If you don't want to call it cheating ok, most cheaters don't like being told they are cheating, that's on the folks breaking the rules not me, but by definition the fact that using a third party tool to parse is technically cheating right now. If they change it in the future, by adding addons or what ever, that is the future, currently it's no ok'd. If you would read that lodestone post they do single out programs that parse data specifically.

Why am I bringing up the app, because THAT is what's against the rules. Not the act of parsing. That's what YOU don't comprehend. You try to bundle it all together like they're both the same, when they're not. Your words about the mod and it become non-cheating even proves it. Being against the ToS is only because it's a third party program. NOTHING else. You just choose to think so.

Read the bolded part from the lodestone, tools that parse data are against ToS, are you not seeing that? If you are so certain that you can parse and it's all ok, I will gladly make a character on your server, I will go to a target dummy and you can parse me and whisper me the results, I'll report it to a GM and we will see if the simple act of paring is ok or not.

And that's my post limit for the day, feels kind of wasted so many on this one subject because some folks can't read facts put before them, comprehend them, and accept that no matter how much they argue it has been clearly laid out by the devs.