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  1. #31
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    Shori's Avatar
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    Ryan Shori
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    Sagittarius
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Thats just a bad scholar/player (in OP's post), but not all are like that. Its rife in every dungeon and trial found through duty finder which is why I avoid it if I've got a purpose. Try your FC members or party finder instead.
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  2. #32
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    Synra Nightwalker
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    Leviathan
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    It's definitely yet another growing problem with the community in this game.

    To answer the question of "Why we have a low level roulette", it's absolutely to get more people into lower level dungeons.

    This is especially true about those first three. Players level through the 15-20 range extremely quickly. After the first couple months, the population of level 15+ players queing for those dungeons dropped extremely. The que time became longer and longer because there were so few people wanting/needing to clear one of those dungeons. Anyone 20+ in the que had far more rewarding dungeons to que for, and level 50s had zero reason to do any dungeon below 50.

    The roulette changed that. For a level 20-49 player, the low level roulette gives you a change of scenery once a day and a big bonus of exp at the end. For a level 50, you get something like 80 Myth tomes. The purpose of all this bait is to improve que times for those who need to run a specific dungeon.

    And it worked. However today we are in an ugly place. On one hand we have a flood of new PS4 players and most are T-E-R-R-I-B-L-E and don't listen. On the other hand, there are a whole lot of selfish level 50 jerks in the que who just want their reward and don't give a damn about helping low levels learn a dungeon and earn some exp. People like me are caught in the middle of that crap-sandwich.
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  3. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by Synra View Post
    And it worked. However today we are in an ugly place. On one hand we have a flood of new PS4 players and most are T-E-R-R-I-B-L-E and don't listen. On the other hand, there are a whole lot of selfish level 50 jerks in the que who just want their reward and don't give a damn about helping low levels learn a dungeon and earn some exp. People like me are caught in the middle of that crap-sandwich.
    Sadly, this is why i only use expert and trial roulette. The myths you can earn doing a low level roulette doesn't worth the pain (you can do 2-3 brayflox in the same time it takes to do one level dungeon). Only did low level dungeons to get my Animus ><
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  4. #34
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    Seif Dincht
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    Balmung
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    Marauder Lv 72
    Someone in my pt. tried that "shortcut".

    You can skip a part of the road by falling down HOWEVER you still need to pull the lever down there to open the gate to the big room. So it's pretty pointless really. Just kill the mobs, you have time for that.
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  5. #35
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    Aiya Lorana
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elvin View Post
    And no one have more right that others, that's just something in your mind for god knows what reason. Yeah, they're probably there for experience. Or maybe just for advance on the main story. And? They're there for that, you are there for another thing. The only compulsory thing is the common goal, complete the dungeon. People doesn't have more rights for being lower or higher level, we are all players.
    When you join via roulette, most likely the non-50's joined that dungeon explicitly for exp. It's usually the 50's that want a speed run and it usually only happens when the tank is the one who DR'd. I'm okay with people who joined via roulette to ask if they can speed, but if anyone wants full clear for exp, that should be the default. As others have said, a single non-roulette run of Brayflox/Halatali/Amdapor nets more tomes than a Low DR; if you're against a full clear, don't do Low DR.
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  6. #36
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    LineageRazor's Avatar
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    Lineage Razor
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    Gilgamesh
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    The Roulette system was implemented to ensure that players will always be able to find assistance to clear content which requires a party. Players participating in Roulette are there to help these other players, and they are being paid for this service by way of Roulette bonuses. As such, all decisions regarding what is done in a dungeon (skipped chest, speed runs, etc) should be in favor of the NON-Roulette participants. You are there to help them - you are being PAID to help them - not the other way around. Note that in a case where EVERYONE is on Roulette, this does not apply, obviously; you can come to a group consensus as to how the dungeon should be run, but more likely than not everyone will be in favor of speed.

    All that said, the tank, and no one else, decides the pace of a dungeon run. A courteous tank will respect the wishes of their party, but in the end a party has little alternative but to do what the tank wants. In the case of the OP, it sounds as though the SCH took the one alternative available - leaving the run.
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  7. #37
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    Elvin Rath
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    Alchemist Lv 51
    Quote Originally Posted by sanosuke001 View Post
    When you join via roulette, most likely the non-50's joined that dungeon explicitly for exp. It's usually the 50's that want a speed run and it usually only happens when the tank is the one who DR'd. I'm okay with people who joined via roulette to ask if they can speed, but if anyone wants full clear for exp, that should be the default. As others have said, a single non-roulette run of Brayflox/Halatali/Amdapor nets more tomes than a Low DR; if you're against a full clear, don't do Low DR.
    Tha'ts not true. (the first part of what you say) I never do low level roulette as a 50, only when leveling. And almost never want a full run.
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  8. #38
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    Iam Groot
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    Leviathan
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    Warrior Lv 60
    But once you are in it, and past the 2nd boss, to leave is really a bigger waste of time. Than to just kill a few more mobs?

    ilvl 92 tank, i run low lvl roulette for the bonus at least twice a week, its easy fast and ill kill extra stuff if people need xp.
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  9. #39
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    Deus Flac
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    Behemoth
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    As a tank main, I actually really enjoy helping newbies get EXP and chests in Low Level dungeons. I'll always ask first though. I figure that if I were in their shoes, I'd really appreciate the help personally.
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  10. #40
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    Melfina Amastacia
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    Excalibur
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    Lancer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Elvin View Post
    Tha'ts not true. (the first part of what you say) I never do low level roulette as a 50, only when leveling. And almost never want a full run.
    So it's not true for you, yet for many it is.
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