Wow, people are real jerks about watching cutscenes.

[Borfin]

This rant is over 1 person not wanting to watch the CS? Come now...

The rant was actually about a group of people continually flaming after which I got paired with a GOOD group, but reading the thread (or at least my own posts in it - or at the very least the OP and post you quoted) would have told you that.

[waldo]

A bit disgruntled Rijda, who is going to watch the cutscenes no matter how much you flame him. You guys can 7 man it if it's that important to you.

Didn't think so

[Borfin]

Let's go ahead and make things a bit clearer, since you're having some trouble with reading comprehension (and getting uppity, which I probably wouldn't recommend in your position).

- If I'm watching the scene and advising the party to "go ahead and 7 man it if it's that important to them", it stands to reason that I'm likely the only person watching cutscenes.
- In the most recent post before yours, I stated that 7/8 people were still watching the scene. The tank pulled by mistake. Therefore, it's likely the tank was NOT watching the scene, and was therefore the 8th person.
- Logically, this would mean these are two different runs. The first was fraught with flaming and frequently bosses would be pulled, and in many cases killed, before the cutscene had completed. This is aside from the racial/homophobic slurs and constant harassment that flooded party chat.

To cement the point home even further, here's a post from me on page 2:

Even then, honestly? It'll be one wipe, and the final boss is pretty easy (compared to some others).

The cutscenes are suitably EPIC. Just finished a REAL run, and it was amazing. This is not an experience anyone should deny anyone else.

Clearer now?

[waldo]

I'm not disagreeing that there is something wrong with watching the CS, my point to be clear is if you're using duty finder to get these quest done you're going to have to put up with people and thier attitudes. If you want a group of 8 that are going to do it the way you want it done DF is the wrong route to go. Just think of yourself lucky 3 of the 8 didn't go afk so you could clear it for them and they get free tomes.

Yeah, there are worse things than getting flamed or left behind in CS when you use duty finder.

You've joined the not-so-exclusive club of people with bad DF experiences.

[Borfin]

You are so very full of assumptions.

The biggest one being that Duty Finder groups are inherently bad. I've had more positive than negative. In fact my most recent run is screaming evidence against your point (if it can be called that).

I did put up with people and their attitudes. That doesn't make them okay, nor does it mean I should have to.

[davidwbean]

What if everyone is just farming Prae and one person makes the entire group wait every CS? Is that reverse jerkism?

Just tell them to do WP no need for CM/Prae farming anymore.

If 7 people are farming prea/cm for tomes and have to pug off the df to fill one slot then they should have the decency to allow that one person to enjoy the experience their paying a sub fee to have. We have FC, LS, and /shout to make SR parties

[zakalw3]

One person having a bad experience = "people".

And yes, i know more than one of you have experienced this, but in all my runs of CM I've not seen a single person say anything rude when a player watches a cutscene. I've seen people mention it, like "oh, they must be in a cutscene" and at the very most "I wish people would say they'll be watching cutscenes", but not a single time have I seen anyone say anything rude.

And I ran it a lot to spiritbond gear.

People like to exaggerate the negative.

[fireball_748]

I had a group when I went through prae shouting at me to skip cs and I was even left out of the Nero & Gaius fight. As for the Gaius fight, I watched the CS and as soon as i finished watching and reading it, the fight was sealed and couldn't do anything for the elevator and then the next CS rolls. AHHH >

[Malila]

I had a bad experience es well the day before yesterday. My husband and I did CM and Praet back to back. In CM, I said we wanted to watch cutscenes at the beginning, as I had read some of the stories on the forums before. The people were fine with it (or at least didn't complain), plus an experienced tank taught the other tank, who was new as well, all the pulls, which was awesome.

In Praet, the Monk said "Don't watch them, I watched them at the inn as well and skipped them on my first run". I (healer) said: "I don't want to skip them, if you are not fine with it I will dodge and we queue up again". Cause I don't mind 15 minutes waiting + 10 to 15ish in queue (it was early afternoon), cause I'm not in a rush with anything. Needless to say he said we should just go do the run. Run went ok up to Ultima, he made some comments about how a boss would be downed faster than the cutscene etc, but we mainly ignored him and proceeded through the dungeon.
Oh, there were 4 people watching the cutscenes by the way, the other 3 people were silent the whole run.
Anyhow at the first Ultima battle we got the great explanation "Dodge s*it" when asked how the fight goes, and we wiped on the first try. We asked for more explanations, so he said "Red area: dodge, purple area dodge, laser dodge" or something like this and said we should watch youtube videos. We wiped once more, before everyone got the hang of the moves and the fight, and killed it on third try.
I am unfortunately noone who can completely keep quiet with people like this, and while I didn't insult him I did ask him why he would use the DF if he doesn't have patience with new people (also referring to watching the cutscenes) all the while he kept raging about us wasting time. Not sure how not explaining fights does not waste time, but meh, I don't mind wiping as long as there is progress to be seen which was the case.
(Looking back, "Dodge everything" is a quite accurate description of the fight, but when you haven't seen the moves before, you get confused easily so just listing what the mob does can help a ton)
At last, during the last cutscene during which he left the dungoen of course, he left us a nice "selfish a**holes".

I did not make a screenshot of this, so believe me or not, I don't have anything more than my words to convince you guys but I have no reason to lie about this. I know this was just one jerk, and the CM run showed that it can go a nice way too, but it is very sad that people have to put up with this.

[Genesis-xyx]

I constantly go into these dungeons on my healer just for people who are new and would love to watch the cutscenes, if I notice someone watching I will watch too, or at least stand with them until they are done, I find people are a little less inclined to continue if they're missing two or more people one of which is a healer. I always stand up for people when others try to grief them into skipping. People are ridiculous, you only get the storyline once unless you create multiple characters, so enjoy it =D