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  1. #41
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    Shug's Avatar
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    Mimmoki Moki
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    Brynhildr
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Grailer View Post
    Being a tank I feel it is my job to make the run as fast as possible . And when someone is watching cutscenes that's about the time I leave instance . However I run WP/AK now so I don't actually run those instances anymore .

    Being a tank, I feel the opposite. We all had our first times, and I bet all those people yelling at you to skip didn't on theirs. If I'm your tank and people are mad cause anyone else watched c/s, I will defend them and tell everyone else to deal with it.
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  2. #42
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    ShinkuTachi's Avatar
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    Pyro Frost
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    Goldsmith Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Grailer View Post
    Being a tank I feel it is my job to make the run as fast as possible . And when someone is watching cutscenes that's about the time I leave instance . However I run WP/AK now so I don't actually run those instances anymore .
    It's not your job to get through a run as fast as possible. it is your job to hold hate and help keep people from dying.

    You are only to lead people through as quickly as possible if EVERYONE has agreed to a speed run. This typically works best in a group that you form yourself or join on your server, rather than the DF. Since the DF doesn't have that function.
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  3. #43
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    Conchobar Pridwen
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    Quote Originally Posted by Borfin View Post
    Even then, honestly? It'll be one wipe, and the final boss is pretty easy (compared to some others).

    The cutscenes are suitably EPIC. Just finished a REAL run, and it was amazing. This is not an experience anyone should deny anyone else.
    Me, I was more than happy to watch the cs's later, but to each their own.

    But this is just as rude of you if you can't understand that this issue is basically a glitch, skip a cs, and help your group.

    Edit: I never pressured someone out a cs in there, but thankfully the cs people would drop cs when they saw someone say the boss was attacking.
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    Last edited by Steeled; 11-11-2013 at 02:28 PM.

  4. #44
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    waldo's Avatar
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    Lilly Grace
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    I feel your point and agree 99.9%, but play devils advocate. If the option were there to run the instance without cutscenes (runs for only philo tomes) you'd sit in duty finder for HOURS waiting for 7 other first timers. Just saying, sometimes you gotta deal with people and thier attitudes if you want to get stuff done.
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  5. #45
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    People still run PR for philosophy? I didn't know that happened after WP started dropping myth..

    Seems like a good way to get tomes slower.
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  6. #46
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    Ylisia Eniaru
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    Lamia
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    Watch the cutscenes, and if anyone complains about it, simply mention that you watch cutscenes just to annoy people like them.
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  7. #47
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    Rijda Highstaff
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    Quote Originally Posted by waldo View Post
    I feel your point and agree 99.9%, but play devils advocate. If the option were there to run the instance without cutscenes (runs for only philo tomes) you'd sit in duty finder for HOURS waiting for 7 other first timers. Just saying, sometimes you gotta deal with people and thier attitudes if you want to get stuff done.

    That's quite an assumption, and considering the last group I was in had 7/8 people (including myself) viewing cutscenes every time they came up (and having the majority, if not all, watching CSes has been common in leveling dungeons) I'm inclined to disagree with you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Steeled View Post
    Me, I was more than happy to watch the cs's later, but to each their own.

    But this is just as rude of you if you can't understand that this issue is basically a glitch, skip a cs, and help your group.

    Edit: I never pressured someone out a cs in there, but thankfully the cs people would drop cs when they saw someone say the boss was attacking.
    You're free to do that if you choose, but again:

    This is not an experience anyone should deny anyone else
    As an aside, if someone's rude enough to pull the boss while I, or anyone else, is getting caught up on the story, they deserve to 7, 6, 5, 4, 3 or 2 man it.

    And I hope they wipe, because that's one hell of a dick move.
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    Last edited by Borfin; 11-11-2013 at 04:07 PM.

  8. #48
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    Conchobar Pridwen
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    No no, if someone pulls the boss, they deserve whatever they get, but that particular boss.. you defeat previous boss, get cutscene, come out, there's boss and some people are sometimes right on top of it.

    Noone is pulling it, it agros. It's a small programming oversight.
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  9. #49
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    That of course is different, but I'm not going to fault anyone who just goes "Eh, it's a wipe anyway. I'm gonna finish watching the scene."

    Hell, that exact scenario happened on this exact run. Tank accidentally pulled, went "oops" in party chat, everyone else kept watching CS. He and a sole solitary healer made it a point to keep everyone alive and NOT focus down the boss. Other DPS stayed off the boss until everyone finished watching the CS.

    THAT is a good group. Not because of skill necessarily, but because of courtesy.

    I misunderstood your post. My mistake.
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    Last edited by Borfin; 11-11-2013 at 04:17 PM.

  10. #50
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    Lilly Grace
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    Balmung
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Borfin View Post
    That's quite an assumption, and considering the last group I was in had 7/8 people (including myself) viewing cutscenes every time they came up (and having the majority, if not all, watching CSes has been common in leveling dungeons) I'm inclined to disagree.
    This rant is over 1 person not wanting to watch the CS? Come now...
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