

Hard to say as I've not played with a relic SCH, but I doubt it will boost their AoE heals that much. SCH isn't useless for the fight however, WHM + SCH works very well. Could be wrong as I'm no healer but I hear their single target heal is better than WHM. So they work together nicely.
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I meant titan. Accidenlty put Garuda pugs lol. It was a titan DF that I almost won with 2 SCH. Got it to 17 %, but one of them bit the dust.Yeah but Garuda is like 50 times easier than Titan, which is why I didn't comment on that sentence. Garuda is less about dodging and more about DPS, dodging is usually the cause of a Titan fail because it's harder than just DPSing.
Though I did miss your line of almost winning with a DF group with 2 SCH but it depends what you mean by almost. I'd think 2 SCH is next to impossible because they aren't very good at AoE cures and Tumult will kill you late in the fight without good AoE heals. DF also gimps you by giving you 2 tanks, and while that doesn't make it impossible it lowers your DPS resulting in a longer fight and more chance of wiping since Tumult increases in every rotation.
I'm probably wrong that strict entry is "the only way to win" (I'm sure someone on here posted they won in DF once) but it's by far the best and you're just setting yourself up for a lot of wasted time/headaches doing it any other way.
Last edited by Reika; 09-30-2013 at 09:07 PM.


Impressive lol. I think I've only seen past the heart once in a DF group. Even had parties wipe on the first phase where it's just Landslide > Stomp.
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I assume he's talking about this one. 2xSCH + 1xWHM.
Does Sacred Soil/Whispering Wind stack? They went with 2xEos, so I'm kinda wondering. Keeping fairy on obey gives you control over her AoE heals, and it seems he's doing just that. Good thing the fairies are almost unaffected by the damage and knockback. Other than that, they just had to cast Succor so that it doesn't clash between the 2 SCH I guess. Nice work there.
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The party I went with was 2sch/1whm. I used Eos, the other guy used Selene. I did not maintain any control over the fairy during the fight. I focused on getting ss down for the phase 5 stomps , avoiding shit and just making sure the tank wasn't going to eat a mb that was going to kill him. Perfectly doable, no relics involved. That party... well we had a different whm to start with, he 'disconnected' after an hour and a half maybe? Went out, got a new whm, won first time. It's so helpful if the whm is on the medica2 ball!
Just the fact that you're mocked if you die first is a good example of how bad the community is.

Also do not Run DF because there have been cases or people purposely failing so they can sell runs. other then that run with people who know the fight and have won, if your lucky enough to have a LS or FC that have run them go with them and do it. don't get lured into buying a win.
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