Why this game sucks. Penalty for leaving dungeon.

[CocoSwift]

This was yesterday. After that i went

sleeping. Today I try again. Waited for 1 hour and tank left 3

minutes into the game, because healer pulled some monsters by

accident.

Give a leaver 90 minutes penalty this game sucks!!

A couple of days passed. In previous attempts to play in that dungeon - every time the tank left game. Today I try again. Tank left game shouting "Don't eat my fruit!" to whoever ate his fruit.

I'm totally losing respect for square enix - fix this! Give leaver 90 minutes penalty!

[TirionCrey]

A couple of days passed. In previous attempts to play in that dungeon - every time the tank left game. Today I try again. Tank left game shouting "Don't eat my fruit!" to whoever ate his fruit.

I'm totally losing respect for square enix - fix this! Give leaver 90 minutes penalty!

Considering your statement I assume you are talking about Aurum Vale? Since there are the only boss fights that require people to "eat fruits"...

Sorry...if someone is eating the tanks fruit over and over again...and he even says to stop it and eat another one, then all the more respect to him. As a Tank you can't just run around with the boss and try to reach a fruit that nobody touched yet...it was the PT screwing up, not the tank...if he leaves, from what I read right now, he had all the rights to...

Instead of being angry at the tank, you should have been angry at whoever ate the fruit...cause he/she was the one who screwed up...

[TirionCrey]

You know that not always fights go smoothly. Sometimes you need to start over and people learn. It was the first fight in that dungeon and tank left immediately. So why don't u take a cock out of your mouth and stop being a bloody retard you idiot!!!! How can u support such behaviour. I have been waiting 60-90 minutes for that dungeon.

I guess you will have enough time to calm down during the forum ban you are about to get for this.

Take care...won't miss you.

[ntall1]

Lawl... He gave his opinion before that last statement, there is nothing anyone can say on this matter that will make you change your mind, much less listen.

If you for some reason are in groups that fail 95% of the time.. than you are most likely part of the problem. With the attitude you have shown in your post I think we can assume that this is the case.

[Xiroth]

I'm a dragoon and I've yet to come across this issue...

I've never had a tank or healer leave for the sake of trolling? Maybe I've just been lucky in that sense. Once a healer DC'd and we found a replacement almost straight away after he was booted.

In fact, I've abandoned runs because it was too painful and annoying watching a fail tank beat his head agaisnt the wall and be unable to move out of red zones and continually die to the same thing over and over again.

[Syndication]

I've had a healer leave after the second trash mob died in AK. Then one pulled the Griffin that as PAL was tanking mobs away from the Griffin and it killed the WHM because the PAL had to run to it, provoke it, and whatever tanks do to grab aggro but by then it was too late and the healer left. Impatience and stupidity have ruined runs I was in. I, personally, think those people should get some punishment outside the penalty for leaving because it screws us over. Yes I do understand that people leave if a group is fail, that's not something you should sit through and suffer. But leaving after the second mob is ridiculous. Also if someone is failing, try to teach them. On my first AK run, I was clueless, but someone took a moment to teach me and we did pretty well.

[NathCim]

I'm tanking in every MMO where tanks are available.. and in my time in Eorzea, I only left a dungeon 1 time. Why?
I had a group on Brayflox's Longstop. 2 DDs were always attacking the 1-2 unmarked targets of enemy group, running forward to goblins (and dying - with the goblins). I tried to communicate, friendly, 'Please attack the marked target.' etc..
'Lolol' 'Roflcopter' etc. were the answers.

Why should I waste my time into wipes and (with the wipes) 60 stressy minutes? Sure, I'm sorry for the healer-guy, he did quite well. But he wont hang in queue that long.
A higher penalty would just force me not to use DF anymore and take premade groups. And I guess many other serious tanks see it the same way. So good luck with a higher penalty, things will get worse and you will have 90% underequipped trolltanks. -> GG

[Neo_bahamut]

Well after reading everyone's comments I have to say I agree with both statements endless wipes because of people not listening or not doing there job properly is annoying no one wants that no one will use DF if thats force. Second ban on trolls is needed making someone who waited hours to play a dungeon requeu is not right we don't all live in our mother basement with no jobs and nothing else to do all day.

You need both features high penalty for people that leave before set amount of wipes perhaps 4-5? And report function that the party can report trolls if they are clearly having everyone die on purpose to avoid time penalty. If a person gets reported for troll a certain amount of times ban them for a day, week, month, prem wtv in progression to how many times this person has been reported for trolling. While this is more of an issue for the dps then we healers or even less the tank there no reason why everyone can't have a good experience playing the game these problems I believe are easy to resolve.

Its not fair or necessary true to tell the poster its their fault if all the party drop they are the problem. If it happens to them in all the dungeon they play then ok start asking question but it took me personally over a week to do Bray because tanks would drop in swarms.. did I suddenly forget how to cast cure? no the dungeon Bray is harder on bad tanks I finally got a good tank and was shock at how ridiculously easy the dungeon was I thought she was a goddess xD

My point is when SE makes a dungeon even slightly difficult for tanks this problem arise mostly because too many tanks have ego problems they either don't listen cause they think they know it all or they don't instruct cause they figure we should be able to read their minds quit instantly when things don't go their way because their no repercussion if these types of tank are saying they won't DF if they change the system then thats a bonus to community as far as I am concern no one want to play with an egotistical a**

To the original poster I sympathise with your problem and I don't think your a bad person cause you had a bit of a meltdown further in the post it happens we are all human we all rage now and then I do have to mention however some of us do enjoy mentioned body part in their mouth and despite our scandalous appetite we still play the game fairly well xD

[TirionCrey]

I've had a healer leave after the second trash mob died in AK. Then one pulled the Griffin that as PAL was tanking mobs away from the Griffin and it killed the WHM because the PAL had to run to it, provoke it, and whatever tanks do to grab aggro but by then it was too late and the healer left. Impatience and stupidity have ruined runs I was in. I, personally, think those people should get some punishment outside the penalty for leaving because it screws us over. Yes I do understand that people leave if a group is fail, that's not something you should sit through and suffer. But leaving after the second mob is ridiculous. Also if someone is failing, try to teach them. On my first AK run, I was clueless, but someone took a moment to teach me and we did pretty well.

That's a whole different story. In the case of me actually queuing up in DF for things like AK, I always ask if everybody knows the dungeon at the start. If someone says only up to this point or whatever, I don't just assume he is a bad player and I take my time explaining stuff to him, I make announcements on pull if I am gonna pull them to a specific spot etc. I mark all my targets, so attacking the wrong one is not an excuse.

But if I happen to not think of asking if somebody is new to this dungeon, I expect the person who is new to the dungeon to speak up and tell everybody. Just assuming he will do okay and causing wipes is unacceptable.

[Hollow_Tears]

I was playing last night in tam-tara, the tank and healer left after just ten or so minutes according to the 2 players who where left there because the healer was not doing his job. I have been entering dungeons where there is no tank or healer alot these past couple days.

I agree there needs to be a penalty of some sort.