Twintania in a nutshell

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09-30-2013, 09:17 AM
Yenn

Twintania in a nutshell

Because it's too hard to take a screenshot of Divebomb.

http://i.imgur.com/4PRkCxQ.jpg
09-30-2013, 09:34 AM
Sylvanna

Dat triple fireball. Gotta remember to pray to the fireball RNGG gods before you pull!
09-30-2013, 11:19 AM
Xilrasis

I don't understand how people are having issues with anything prior to Divebomb still. Maybe 1 in 25 pulls goes to hell due to RNG, but unless you're asleep at the keyboard its seriously trivial.
09-30-2013, 11:25 AM
Yenn

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Originally Posted by Xilrasis

I don't understand how people are having issues with anything prior to Divebomb still. Maybe 1 in 25 pulls goes to hell due to RNG, but unless you're asleep at the keyboard its seriously trivial.

We're not. We consistently reach P4 (though Divebomb RNG kills people), but this screenshot is an example of how easily RNG can fuck you over.

Also the strategy for Conflags isn't easy to figure out, especially with the Fireball bug, and certain classes being unable to burst them (i.e. SMN is totally fucked on Conflags).
09-30-2013, 11:34 AM
Xilrasis

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yenn

We're not. We consistently reach P4 (though Divebomb RNG kills people), but this screenshot is an example of how easily RNG can fuck you over.

Also the strategy for Conflags isn't easy to figure out, especially with the Fireball bug, and certain classes being unable to burst them (i.e. SMN is totally fucked on Conflags).

Pretty sure you're the only guild in the world seeing this Fireball bug (or at least only one with any consistency?), and Summoner burst is fine on Conflag if you position them under the boss for Bane + Fester.

Fireball timer literally happens ~2 seconds before Waxen duration is out, and impacts right as it goes away (Unless you're standing directly under the mob, maybe? I don't know). We have never, ever experienced it "Refreshing" stacks or anything. Perhaps its hitting pets and you are mistaking it for a refresh or something?
09-30-2013, 12:00 PM
Yenn

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xilrasis

Pretty sure you're the only guild in the world seeing this Fireball bug (or at least only one with any consistency?), and Summoner burst is fine on Conflag if you position them under the boss for Bane + Fester.

Fireball timer literally happens ~2 seconds before Waxen duration is out, and impacts right as it goes away (Unless you're standing directly under the mob, maybe? I don't know). We have never, ever experienced it "Refreshing" stacks or anything. Perhaps its hitting pets and you are mistaking it for a refresh or something?

I posted it in the bug section and it was accepted. I also linked a video of it (but the FC didn't intend for that video to be public).
With that said, killing 4 stack Conflags with SMN really cuts it close, even when it doesn't bug. Bane + Fester doesn't really provide enough damage and Aetherdam cooldown is so long that one of the Conflags won't have a stack up to use Fester.

We're resorting to the same strategy as you (or maybe not, I don't remember which group is using it), which imo is really stupid and definitely isn't intended.
09-30-2013, 12:03 PM
Xilrasis

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Originally Posted by Yenn

I posted it in the bug section and it was accepted. I also linked a video of it (but the FC didn't intend for that video to be public).
With that said, killing 4 stack Conflags with SMN really cuts it close, even when it doesn't bug. Bane + Fester doesn't really provide enough damage and Aetherdam cooldown is so long that one of the Conflags won't have a stack up to use Fester.

If you preserve a 3stack from phase 1, you can always have at minimum a 1stack + aether (so you can bane - aether - fester).
09-30-2013, 12:06 PM
Yenn

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Originally Posted by Xilrasis

If you preserve a 3stack from phase 1, you can always have at minimum a 1stack + aether (so you can bane - aether - fester).

I didn't think of using Aetherdam at 1 stack. That would probably work.

Just saving a 3 stack from P1, I Bane + Fester to 1 stack, then on the next Conflag Bane + Aether + Fester, then use my remaining Bane + Fester on the third, but I don't get my next Aetherdam until the middle of the fourth, at which point I've wasted 50% of the Conflag duration getting DoTs up.
09-30-2013, 12:08 PM
Crescentia

I forgot to put on my Ifrit spear :(
09-30-2013, 12:17 PM
Xilrasis

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yenn

I didn't think of using Aetherdam at 1 stack. That would probably work.

Just saving a 3 stack from P1, I Bane + Fester to 1 stack, then on the next Conflag Bane + Aether + Fester, then use my remaining Bane + Fester on the third, but I don't get my next Aetherdam until the middle of the fourth, at which point I've wasted 50% of the Conflag duration getting DoTs up.

Aether is 1min CD, and conflag is a 30 second CD (which means at worst it is going to line up with Aether CD, at best its going to be a few seconds behind Aether CD)

3 Stacks -- Conflag 1 Bane - Fester
1 Stack -- Conflag 2 Bane - Aether - Fester
2 Stacks -- Conflag 3 Bane - Fester
0 Stacks - Conflag 4 Aether - Bane - Fester
09-30-2013, 09:22 PM
Sylvanna

SMN is so good for killing conflags gg.

Unless you brain fart and forget to move.
09-30-2013, 11:58 PM
Xilrasis

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sylvanna

SMN is so good for killing conflags gg.

Unless you brain fart and forget to move.

This. Pretty sure SMN is one of the highest damage sources to properly placed conflags.
10-01-2013, 01:13 AM
Yenn

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xilrasis

This. Pretty sure SMN is one of the highest damage sources to properly placed conflags.

Maybe if you ignore a BLM dropping 50% of it's health in a cast.
10-01-2013, 03:04 AM
Xilrasis

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Originally Posted by Yenn

Maybe if you ignore a BLM dropping 50% of it's health in a cast.

Hyperbole doesn't help your case.