Primals should look more mechanical like in FFXIII

Wouldn't you have liked it if Primals had looked more robotic/mechanical like in FFXIII?

Nope

But to clarify:

Nope

Why would they?

FFXIII had more of a futuristic setting than most other Final Fantasy games, so it would make sense that the monsters would follow the art style.
FFXIV however, is much more of a high-fantasy setting.

If you want some FXIII looking monster though, look forward Lightning's quest-line coming Patch 2.1!

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Originally Posted by Erana

Why would they?

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Because FFXIII Summons look the coolest

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Originally Posted by Juubi

Because FFXIII Summons look the coolest

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That's entirely subjective.

I prefer the more organic look.

Subjective but in my opinion, FF12 summon designs > FF13 summon designs

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If only FF14 Zodiark was a esper and not a boring crystal...

I'm trying my hardest to light this thread on fire, but only my monitor seems to be melting.


I'll be back with another monitor and some lighter fluid.

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Originally Posted by Juubi

Wouldn't you have liked it if Primals had looked more robotic/mechanical like in FFXIII?

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You don't want Primals. You want Eidolons. Fal'cie.

Absolutely not. They're called primals, which insinuates they're old and have been around for some time. You wouldn't expect that to look techy, would you?

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Originally Posted by Cubester

Absolutely not. They're called primals, which insinuates they're old and have been around for some time. You wouldn't expect that to look techy, would you?

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Technically, there's almost always advanced civilizations that are quite old and more technological than modern civilizations and certain beasts come in mechanical form - Think about FFV and the Omega Weapon for example.

Different game, different style. XIII would feel a bit out of place in XIV.

I'm going to get flak for this, but I personally liked X's summons the best. X still has my favorite version of Ifrit to date.

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Originally Posted by Noshpan

Different game, different style. XIII would feel a bit out of place in XIV.

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I take it you haven't been to the coil yet ^^

Hell no. That was one of the MANY things I hated about XIII.

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Originally Posted by Noshpan

Different game, different style. XIII would feel a bit out of place in XIV.

I'm going to get flak for this, but I personally liked X's summons the best. X still has my favorite version of Ifrit to date.

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*gives flak* :P

Where is Fenrir for a primal?

The less things relating this to the abomination that was 13 the better, it's enough that we're getting a Lightning Fate we do not need anything else.

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Originally Posted by Cenewulf

*gives flak* :P

Where is Fenrir for a primal?

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*steals cenewulf's flak to make linen*
just giving the stuff away

on topic:
no...just...NO

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Originally Posted by Balaur

You don't want Primals. You want Eidolons. Fal'cie.

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The terms for summons are interchangeable depending on the FF you're playing and who you ask. Even in FFXIV, the Garleans call them Eikons, not Primals.

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Originally Posted by tuseroni

*steals cenewulf's flak to make linen*
just giving the stuff away

on topic:
no...just...NO

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Y U TAKE MAH FLAK? ლ(ಠ_ಠლ)

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Originally Posted by tuseroni

*steals cenewulf's flak to make linen*
just giving the stuff away

on topic:
no...just...NO

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Pretty sure you're thinking of Flax.. >_>

Nah, quite fine as they are, actually.

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Originally Posted by Juubi

Wouldn't you have liked it if Primals had looked more robotic/mechanical like in FFXIII?

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No no no... you listen to me! There is NOTHING in or about Final Fantasy XIII that should EVER exist in any game ever again! Ever!

........ Kapeesh? Bad enough we got sequels instead of new FF installations this last console generation and now used as some shameless lore-bending ad for its third "incredibly anticipated" addition. The historical summons of FF are designed as Beasts, Gods, and Legends... not more Japanese mech-fetish. FFXIII summons are not Final Fantasy ... theyre Transformers.

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Originally Posted by Kayo

No no no... you listen to me! There is NOTHING in or about Final Fantasy XIII that should EVER exist in any game ever again! Ever!

........ Kapeesh? Bad enough we got sequels instead of new FF installations this last console generation and now used as some shameless lore-bending ad for its third "incredibly anticipated" addition.

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Don't do Bahamut's Coil :x

Not sure I like this idea...
Primal sound wild and not robotic to me
They could have another boss, like the garlean creating a robot inspired by the primal... maybe...
even then I don't want a transformer type of primal...

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Originally Posted by Hysterior

Not sure I like this idea...
Primal sound wild and not robotic to me
They could have another boss, like the garlean creating a robot inspired by the primal... maybe...
even then I don't want a transformer type of primal...

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We have a precedence of it already - ARK (IX).

How about Alexander?

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Originally Posted by Tupsi

We have a precedence of it already - ARK (IX).

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And I disliked it very much :)
I don't want to summon an airship, sportscar or bike
Only Alexander i could tolerate

I dont like FF13's Odin, but i like Siren which in CG show

I respect your opinion as hard as that may be. Final Fantasy summons, primals, eidolons, espers, etc, are awesome. Except the ones in FFXIII. I couldn't believe they did that. It was horrible on multiple levels. I honestly hope it NEVER happens with any other addition to this franchise.

I had to punch myself in the face twice just to make sure this thread was really here.

So.... Shiva sister harley, with Roegadyn's riding them..... 2 secs while I blow my brains out.

*BLAM*

Ok, done. No thanks, they are fine as they are currently. If anything, I really liked the FFXI avatars.

I personally like mechanical bosses. But they don't go with the game's atmosphere.

Primals are sentient aether manifestations, no reason for them to be techy. If you want techy, just wait for more Allaghan Weapons to show up.

primals are creatures not robots made by humans

XII summon designs IMO are some of the best in the series, it was very refreshing to get all new summons for that game, too bad most of them were useless. I would love too see some of the XII summon's as primals especially chaos and adremelech they where my favs :)

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Originally Posted by Inaaca

The terms for summons are interchangeable depending on the FF you're playing and who you ask. Even in FFXIV, the Garleans call them Eikons, not Primals.

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The terms I used were based on the games of interest. FFXIII used the term "Eidolon" for the mechanical, Transformer(TM) style of summon. The OP was directly appealing to this model. As they were effectively fal'cie, created to serve man, the eidolons from that game have an innate character that departs from other games. In this game, this world -- this universe -- they are called Primals, and their look is set ... or should be.

The only "mechanical" Primal that would make sense would be Alexander - and that seems like something that only mainland Garlemald would be able to manufact.

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The terms for summons are interchangeable depending on the FF you're playing and who you ask. Even in FFXIV, the Garleans call them Eikons, not Primals.

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Pretty sure that Eikon is the Garlean word for "Primal". Eorzeans simply call them Primals because they've dealt with these powers enough to know that they're SUPPOSED to exist - they're just given physical form because of the beastman oppression.

Garleans, on the other hand, are not familiar with the concept of elemental deities, and thus use a word to describe that which is foreign to them ('course, it could be an Allagan word, but I doubt it - otherwise the Ala Mhigans would've called them such or something similar).

Is this a troll thread?