SE is suspect

Seeing is how they seem to be banning players with large amounts of gil. Legacy players probably have the most. They were probably playing government and thinking "how can we take their gil most effectively".

Well to me i think its a little more than a coincidence that they start banning after they take money for subscriptions.

So they get your gil, money and reduce population all in one sinister move.

I'm not saying banning players purely on the basis of having large sums of gil is fair. In fact, it is not fair.

We don't actually know what's going on here, and also remember that most people will lie, even to their friends, about what they were doing.

That said, what's wrong with banning deserving users after you charge them? They joined your game, knew the rules (or at least had the rules available), and violated them. They made the experience of the community worse and this is now something the company has to invest manpower, and dollars, to fix.

The only problem I have with banning people after charging them is making the honest users suffer longer so the company can have more money.

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Originally Posted by atomicdeath

Seeing is how they seem to be banning players with large amounts of gil. Legacy players probably have the most. They were probably playing government and thinking "how can we take their gil most effectively".

Well to me i think its a little more than a coincidence that they start banning after they take money for subscriptions.

So they get your gil, money and reduce population all in one sinister move.

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Did you get banned sir?

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Originally Posted by Mazley

Did you get banned sir?

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I did, and im a bit butt hurt over it :p

Well if you leave can I have your stuffs?? Can't hurt to ask

I think your tinfoil hat is on too tight.

What use does SE have with your gil? It's a fiction currency in a fictional world that they own. They can literally make all the gil the want. They didn't ban you for your gil, they banned you because they suspected you of doing something agains their TOS, most likely selling something (on accident) to an RMT, most likely through the market boards.

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Originally Posted by Neasa

I think your tinfoil hat is on too tight.

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I learned recently that til foil only works vs. high frequencies. And that the governments HARP antenna arrays operate on a lower frequency wavelength. So to effectively block against those mind control/reading wavelengths operating at 8 kHz you would need a copper braid mesh hat.

So for total protection you would need a foil shield with copper braid body suit that is properly grounded as to not build up a static charge.

Wait, I'm confused. Why would they want to ban people who may continue paying money? Did you think this through?

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Originally Posted by Raim

Wait, I'm confused. Why would they want to ban people who may continue paying money? Did you think this through?

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Why you asking me? ask square enix.

Not trying to be an apologist but a friend of mine was a victim of this. He went to reddit, 4chan, and other avenues saying he was wrongly banned. Thing is I know him personally and know for a fact he DOES deserve his ban. No I'm not calling you or anyone else a liar but.. I have trouble trusting people who get caught for something even when they swear they were innocent.

Your right not to believe every random person on the internet.

But some of us have been wrongfully suspended and will be unsuspended at some point.... but how long will the ones who made their gil legitimately have to wait?

I'm sure there was a better way to go about tackling the RMT issues than this...

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Wait, I'm confused. Why would they want to ban people who may continue paying money?

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Someone at SE thought that players that have over a certain amount of gil can't be legitimate players? Or maybe their RMTPWNER ran amok?

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Originally Posted by atomicdeath

Seeing is how they seem to be banning players with large amounts of gil. Legacy players probably have the most. They were probably playing government and thinking "how can we take their gil most effectively".

Well to me i think its a little more than a coincidence that they start banning after they take money for subscriptions.

So they get your gil, money and reduce population all in one sinister move.

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Why in God's name would the people who can create gil at any time, any where, in any amount, care about taking other people's gil?

Not saying everyone who has been banned deserved it (maybe they did, maybe they didn't..who knows!), but people do have a tendency to lie when they get caught and punished for misdoings.

Fun story. A coworker of mine got fired for stealing a good chunk of money from the company. When she was leaving, she told everyone that she was let go due to a lack of work. A few of her office friends were pissed at the manager until the real story came out.

I don't think OP meant "take their gil" as in "for ourselves".

I think he meant, "How can they take the most gil out of the economy".

There's no conspiracy here, but I think that's what he's getting at.

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Originally Posted by Conradus

Why in God's name would the people who can create gil at any time, any where, in any amount, care about taking other people's gil?

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Just speculating at this time, but, i believe they want to control the economy and have everyone operate at a lower level of gil. Having legacy players around that have a bunch of gil left over from their 1st attempt kinda puts a fly in the ointment to their grand strategy. Why should rich people exist in their world?

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Fun story. A coworker of mine got fired for stealing a good chunk of money from the company. When she was leaving, she told everyone that she was let go due to a lack of work. A few of her office friends were pissed at the manager until the real story came out.

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Was your friend telling the truth or the "office manager" ?

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Just speculating at this time, but, i believe they want to control the economy and have everyone operate at a lower level of gil. Having legacy players around that have a bunch of gil left over from their 1st attempt kinda puts a fly in the ointment to their grand strategy. Why should rich people exist in their world?

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You are giving SE too much credit. The most likely scenario is that SE did run a character search that had the wrong criteria for picking up RMT characters, and banned everyone the search returned without doing a manual double check on the search result.

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Why in God's name would the people who can create gil at any time, any where, in any amount, care about taking other people's gil?

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I think SE wants to kill off as much gil as they can before housing, especially the gil obtained by illegitimate means, even if it was legitimately selling something on the markets to someone who got gil illegitimately.

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Originally Posted by atomicdeath

Was your friend telling the truth or the "office manager" ?

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Hate to split hairs here, but she definitely was not my friend. I was glad to see her go :X

And the manager had the right of it. Check fraud was involved, and there was absolutely no effort involved in hiding who cashed the check (she changed the recipient to herself and endorsed the back). No denying that one.


I think it's always easiest to hate on the person who calls the shots, be it a manager, or to get back on point, SE with all the bannings. I would assume a good number of people deserve to be banned but are telling a different tale to their mates.

Just sayin this is the way they always handled it in FFXI...

Everyone from the RMT's all the way down the foodchain to the people who unknowingly received bought gil through legitimate sales on the AH got banned...

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You are giving SE too much credit. The most likely scenario is that SE did run a character search that had the wrong criteria for picking up RMT characters, and banned everyone the search returned without doing a manual double check on the search result.

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Which leads back to the other posts floating around that say they are banning people with over a certain amount of gil. Which is targeting legacy players, wanting to break everyone down to a peasant levels of gil. Classic american govt tactics.

Its just another plan by the man to keep a brotha down.

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Originally Posted by Skivvy

Not saying everyone who has been banned deserved it (maybe they did, maybe they didn't..who knows!), but people do have a tendency to lie when they get caught and punished for misdoings.

Fun story. A coworker of mine got fired for stealing a good chunk of money from the company. When she was leaving, she told everyone that she was let go due to a lack of work. A few of her office friends were pissed at the manager until the real story came out.

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Aye I agree with you there with your story.
Gold buyers will fabricate anything to make it seem like they got banned for another reason.
They just want to cause a stir of trouble, to get back at SE for banning their illegal activity.

The problem with your theory is that they are doing this on the Non-legacy servers. If you where on a legacy server and got banned then I would have to think you deserved it for some reason.

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The problem with your theory is that they are doing this on the Non-legacy servers. If you where on a legacy server and got banned then I would have to think you deserved it for some reason.

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got hacked (i assume, was never able to log in to verify), so whoever was in charge of my character prolly did something.

What's with the title. Broken is english?

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Originally Posted by atomicdeath

Why you asking me? ask square enix.

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Did you ask Square Enix about your theory?

As has been stated, SE has no use for your gil. they would only take it if you acquired it inappropriately.

SE is not interested in reducing population. More population = more profit.

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Originally Posted by Brises

Did you ask Square Enix about your theory?

As has been stated, SE has no use for your gil. they would only take it if you acquired it inappropriately.

SE is not interested in reducing population. More population = more profit.

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Do you think they would really say?...

I just happen to be a conspiracy theorist by nature. So im tossing ideas out there and see how they stick up to criticism. Aint got nothing else to do cause im waiting for ban removal atm.

And no, i did not acquire anything inappropriately.

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Do you think they would really say?...

I just happen to be a conspiracy theorist by nature. So im tossing ideas out there and see how they stick up to criticism. Aint got nothing else to do cause im waiting for ban removal atm.

And no, i did not acquire anything inappropriately.

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I wouldn't really expect you to say so.

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Originally Posted by Brises

I wouldn't really expect you to say so.

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of course not :p

but i aint the only one this stuff happened to.

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So in other words you need someone with Armorer to make you Bronze armor a full set mind you (bronze is made with copper and tin btw :P) As for people getting supposedly banned for just having high amounts of gil either you did something wrong or were suspected of doing something wrong or you did something wrong without actually knowing you were doing somethinr wrong. wow thats all so very confusing i even confused myself. Hmmm well you know what best solution is everyone but the bots stop using the market board problem solved all the baddies will get banned all the goodies will get to stay and get a cookie (you can make cookies in the game you know :P) and all will be right in the world of Eorzea. or they could just get rid of the market board completely then what will those nasty RMT do then.

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So in other words you need someone with Armorer to make you Bronze armor a full set mind you (bronze is made with copper and tin btw :P) As for people getting supposedly banned for just having high amounts of gil either you did something wrong or were suspected of doing something wrong or you did something wrong without actually knowing you were doing somethinr wrong. wow thats all so very confusing i even confused myself. Hmmm well you know what best solution is everyone but the bots stop using the market board problem solved all the baddies will get banned all the goodies will get to stay and get a cookie (you can make cookies in the game you know :P) and all will be right in the world of Eorzea. or they could just get rid of the market board completely then what will those nasty RMT do then.

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man, after a couple beers, i just dont know lol.