Resurrection Macro Assistance

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09-28-2013, 09:07 AM
Sub-Xero

Resurrection Macro Assistance

So I have a macro for Resurrection that goes like:

/macroicon Resurrection
/ac Swiftcast
/wait 1
/ac Resurrection <t>

The macro hasn't been working on the first try. I tried adjusting the wait time to /wait 1.5 and /wait 2 but it still did not work on the first try.

Honestly, due to the nature of the macro and the fact that I need dead... sorry, "KO'd" bodies, I haven't been able to do much testing to find out what the problem is. I believe that it may be because I am normally not actually targeting the person I'm trying to Resurrect but instead I am subtargeting (?) them. Is there a way to make a macro for actions on subtargets or is there any other way I can adjust the macro to have it go off without needing to separate the pieces and/or take up any more space on my Cross Hotbar? I play with a gamepad if it wasn't obvious from mentioning the Cross Hotbar :p
09-28-2013, 09:14 AM
Eidolith

I have the exact same macro exept with Raise, it seems to work fine out in the open world, but oftentimes messes up in instances mostly just activating swiftcast and not raise, found that weird but thought that i prob just wrote the macro wrong or something.
09-28-2013, 09:16 AM
LunarEmerald

Keep in mind that the spell has a range. If the target is out of range then only swiftcast will go off and it will be wasted.
09-28-2013, 09:16 AM
Sub-Xero

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Originally Posted by Eidolith

I have the exact same macro exept with Raise, it seems to work fine out in the open world, but oftentimes messes up in instances mostly just activating swiftcast and not raise, found that weird but thought that i prob just wrote the macro wrong or something.

Yeah I found that most of my macros weren't working properly while in an instance. I had to change all my Summon macros to /wait 1.5 because they weren't going off.
09-28-2013, 09:18 AM
Sub-Xero

Quote:

Originally Posted by LunarEmerald

Keep in mind that the spell has a range. If the target is out of range then only swiftcast will go off and it will be wasted.

Yeah but I was definitely within range most if not all of the times... It was a bad DF dungeon run so a couple people (2/4 mind you...) kept dying repeatedly thus giving me plenty of opportunities to Res. :D
09-28-2013, 09:21 AM
Eidolith

Quote:

Originally Posted by LunarEmerald

Keep in mind that the spell has a range. If the target is out of range then only swiftcast will go off and it will be wasted.

Well the problem is if i buttonmash the macro, it'll work, and i usually run up to the person i'm raising, but yeah i need to check the radius of it, thought it was the same as cure.
09-28-2013, 09:51 AM
AkashiXI

Is your game lagging? Are you below 30fps during DF? Is your ping naturally high? All of these issues can create lag within the macro. If there's even a tiny amount of lag, a macro that's optimally set (in your case, /wait 1) will fall behind and not register the next move. My suggestion is get rid of the wait, and just repeatedly hit the macro until resurrection comes out. In your case

/ac swiftcast me
/ac resurrection

This insures it'll activate, you'll just need to be a little spam happy.
09-28-2013, 10:19 AM
Tari-F

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sub-Xero

Yeah I found that most of my macros weren't working properly while in an instance. I had to change all my Summon macros to /wait 1.5 because they weren't going off.

Just so you know, the /wait command (unless they changed it recently) only accepts whole numbers, and it rounds up from 0.5 to the next closest whole number. "/wait 1.5" is the same as "/wait 2".

I've been manually casting the Swiftcast + Resurrection combo, and I haven't run into this issue, so I'm pretty curious about it now.
09-28-2013, 11:28 AM
Sub-Xero

Quote:

Originally Posted by AkashiXI

Is your game lagging? Are you below 30fps during DF? Is your ping naturally high? All of these issues can create lag within the macro. If there's even a tiny amount of lag, a macro that's optimally set (in your case, /wait 1) will fall behind and not register the next move. My suggestion is get rid of the wait, and just repeatedly hit the macro until resurrection comes out. In your case

/ac swiftcast me
/ac resurrection

This insures it'll activate, you'll just need to be a little spam happy.

My FPS while in a dungeon are right around 60FPS all of the time except for a couple of dungeons. I haven't actually checked my ping but my connection when logging in is normally "excellent". I've had no macro issues outside of instanced dungeons regardless of how many people were around, my FPS or anything else. I suppose I could just take out the /wait but I'd really rather not be all spammy. Of course, if nothing else really works being all "spammy" is exactly what I'll have to do.
09-28-2013, 11:30 AM
Sub-Xero

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tari-F

Just so you know, the /wait command (unless they changed it recently) only accepts whole numbers, and it rounds up from 0.5 to the next closest whole number. "/wait 1.5" is the same as "/wait 2".

I've been manually casting the Swiftcast + Resurrection combo, and I haven't run into this issue, so I'm pretty curious about it now.

Hmm... Well I've seen around the net other people using 2.5+ second /wait(s) in their macros to account for (G)CD and they went back to working just fine after I slapped a .5 in there so I don't know. Really wish SE had detailed instructions about EVERYTHING pertaining to these kinds of things...
09-29-2013, 04:57 AM
Tari-F

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sub-Xero

Hmm... Well I've seen around the net other people using 2.5+ second /wait(s) in their macros to account for (G)CD and they went back to working just fine after I slapped a .5 in there so I don't know. Really wish SE had detailed instructions about EVERYTHING pertaining to these kinds of things...

Yeah, it's pretty silly that they don't have clear documentation on some of their commands. For /wait, though, a number of people have actually spent the time testing the values you can input (mostly for crafting macros), and the .5s all round up to the next closest whole number.

Since the .5 is still adding a full second to the wait timer, anything that needs that extra second to activate will work with the .5. If you put .4, though, it'll probably break again, since that rounds down instead of up.
09-29-2013, 05:27 AM
Jinko

Are you putting quotes on either side of the skills ?

/micon "Resurrection"
/ac "Swiftcast"
/wait 1
/ac "Resurrection" <t>

If you want to test this, go to halitali dungeon entrance there are always lots of dead bodies there.

To the person under me:-

People using game pads have limited space, otherwise you are forced to flick through sets and that can end up being disastrous.
09-29-2013, 05:36 AM
Ryuko

I'm just curious... why do people use a macro for this? Is it for convenience, or do you simply not have the space for two separate buttons? I don't like using macros, especially ones with 'wait' in them, because of the slight delay macros have in this game. I have three bars for my abilities, and that is more than enough for every ability I will be using in battle (including Swiftcast and Res, which I can throw off very fast without any delay). I even have extra slots for marking. I'm not saying macros have no place in this game... they are very useful in certain situations... but I'm just curious if there is a reason people like macroing this that I'm just not seeing.
09-29-2013, 05:42 AM
dontcare

Don't use a macro for this. Half the time it won't work right and you'll be fumbling around trying to manually cast Rez anyway. At least, that was my experience with it.

Macros seem largely worthless for anything combat related, thanks to "instant" abilities not being instant.
09-29-2013, 05:59 AM
Sub-Xero

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jinko

Are you putting quotes on either side of the skills ?

/micon "Resurrection"
/ac "Swiftcast"
/wait 1
/ac "Resurrection" <t>

If you want to test this, go to halitali dungeon entrance there are always lots of dead bodies there.

To the person under me:-

People using game pads have limited space, otherwise you are forced to flick through sets and that can end up being disastrous.

Yes, but apparently single word abilities/spells do not need them.

I had my friend help me out with it last night and I figured out what the problem was on the first try... It's because when you (I) use Swiftcast (or any ability like that I presume) you lose your subtarget. So what was happening was it was trying to Resurrect whatever my main/primary target was. I still haven't decided what exactly I want to do with the macro but at least I figured out what was the issue. I guess I can either just main target the KO'd person, be quick and get the subtarget circle back onto the KO'd person during the /wait or I could just take the /wait out and spam it until it happens :p
09-29-2013, 06:02 AM
Sub-Xero

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryuko

I'm just curious... why do people use a macro for this? Is it for convenience, or do you simply not have the space for two separate buttons? I don't like using macros, especially ones with 'wait' in them, because of the slight delay macros have in this game. I have three bars for my abilities, and that is more than enough for every ability I will be using in battle (including Swiftcast and Res, which I can throw off very fast without any delay). I even have extra slots for marking. I'm not saying macros have no place in this game... they are very useful in certain situations... but I'm just curious if there is a reason people like macroing this that I'm just not seeing.

Technically I have space but I was trying to cull my Cross Hotbar(s) and since as a SCH I currently only use Swiftcast for Summoning or Resurrecting I figured I'd just macro it into those abilities and take it off my bars.