Unspoiled Gathering Nodes: Does these have gathering caps?

I noticed today as a miner up in Coerthas Central Highlands mining Astral Rocks. I had gathering before today of 343 and now its 373. Noticing little changes as I eat food before thought that I might add some more and see if I could get the node to 100% chance of gather. Nope stuck on 90% for some reason. Can use special abilities to get 100%. Was able to get 90% before with the 343 and eating food. Now if I eat food and go above 373 it still is 90% chance. Is there caps on gathering stat and these special nodes or gathering in general? Any help would be appreciated. Hoping someone tested this or has an idea of what I'm talking about in general. I noticed before that as you add gathering your chances go up close to 100% on gathering items but I think I might have hit a wall. Please confirm or make suggestions at what I can do next. Most gear is hq and triple melded. Can only put gathering on certain pieces.

Same for the darksteel ore. Even after eating food and getting gathering above 380+ it seems to hard cap at 90% gather rate. Any hard announcements from SE about this cap?

I can reliably pull out 20-25 darksteel ores once a game day with only 77%,using King's Yield II while doing other stuff. Now I realize when compared to normal mining points 25 ores a node is nothing, I've been able to grind 500~ ores an hour while I was leveling mining(HQ's and NQ's combined).


I mean, these are supposed to be the rarest ores achievable through mining.

A few ideas they could do, to increase the rarity of these items is:

1.) Reduce the number obtainable per attempt down to 1, like other ores. We have King's Yield II, and can still pull out 15 darksteel ores per node.

2.) Change it so the ores spawn on one of the 1-8 lines randomly, instead of the same spot every time, this would actually make Toil of the Mountaineer required for these nodes on a normal basis.

I believe these ores need to have a bit more rarity, or the items made from them will soon become too common.

@CLassikal, I so did not ask you what you can mine up. I merely wanted to discuss the stat caps. Thank you for ignoring my question and running your mouth. Please don't take it the wrong way but you should read a thread before you just type a response. Thank you.

From what I've read around gathering goal is 340 as gathering 50 nodes caps at 90% for items and 95% for clusters from gear and food. You have to use your ability to bump it to 100%. Then just focus on either GP and/or perception depending on your strat for mining. Hope this helps.

This is the worst news I've heard all week :(

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Originally Posted by enigma213

From what I've read around gathering goal is 340 as gathering 50 nodes caps at 90% for items and 95% for clusters from gear and food. You have to use your ability to bump it to 100%. Then just focus on either GP and/or perception depending on your strat for mining. Hope this helps.

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Exactly what I thought and I whole heartedly appreciate you for sticking with the thread and posting your feedback. Any melds I might do past 340 is merely a waste of time and money. Sadly, that's what I did. At least I now can tell friends and family about their melds and help them not overdo it. Lol. Thanks.

Np. Theres also debate but 320 perception is what you need to at least view HQ so that is where a lot of people stop at and just try to stack GP as 700 is your goal during mining for the best guaranteed double HQ taps per node with deep vigor. Getting 15% HQ with perception is just unfeasible at the moment.

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just try to stack GP as 700 is your goal

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Is that even possible? I'm barely scraping 600 right now, and I have most of the best gear and even some melds.

Not too sure myself but I think it is possible but you need food and a buttload of money for the GP materias.

So I finally reached 320 Perception.... Anyone knows if the HQ Rates go up with even more perception or is stacking GP really the best way at the moment.

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So I finally reached 320 Perception.... Anyone knows if the HQ Rates go up with even more perception or is stacking GP really the best way at the moment.

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It does go up, but from what I saw via food is it is around 20 perception for 1% hq increase.

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Np. Theres also debate but 320 perception is what you need to at least view HQ so that is where a lot of people stop at and just try to stack GP as 700 is your goal during mining for the best guaranteed double HQ taps per node with deep vigor. Getting 15% HQ with perception is just unfeasible at the moment.

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As far as I know, with optimum melds on HQ artifact the maximum stats you can get are

Gathering: 377
Perception: 387
GP: 620

(though I am missing some information on GP meld cap offhand tool so you might be able to squeese in a little more GP). 700 is definitly out of the question right now, even with food. You can get a max of 644 GP with food, but if you can't hit 650 or 700, there really isn't a point in melding past 600. Same with gathering. While you can hit 377, you only need 340 so melding higher than that is surplus. So after Gathering and GP are at the 'caps' so to speak, focus on Perception.

Sorry to dig this up again but it was relevant to what I've discovered.

Right now I'm sitting on 376 gathering, 371 perception, and 600 GP. HQ chances for rare items after 2.1 launch were 4% with 95% chance of gathering them, whilst for normal level 50 items I had a 15% chance of HQ chances and 98% for rosewood branches and 99% for rosewood logs (15% HQ chances were spotted at 264 perception for the logs and 98% chance of gathering was spotted at 315 gathering skill.) I took some gear off to get me to 340 perception and I was then getting 1% chance of a HQ, at 351 perception I had 2% chance of a HQ and at 361 perception I had a 3% chance of a HQ. So this is kind of how it plays out:

320 = 1%
350 = 2%
360 = 3%
370 = 4%

They will eventually introduce nods that need more gathering or something so overmelding that might seem pointless now might pay off later.

This has changed, ninja patched.

With 344 gathering I get a 94% chance on an unspoiled node since 2.1

Interesting, I was still seeing 95% for level 50 items with 340 gathering skill, every level under 50 increased the gathering chance so level 49 items had 96% chance, level 48 items had 97% chance etc. What was it you was gathering?

I'm at 31% HQ with Buff and get less HQ gathers then before.

Could just be me though but seems less.

340 gets me 95% as well on everything unspoiled, not just Clusters.

A simple 50 GP spent on the 5% increase and voilà~