Name change

I've decided to make a topic here because I don't think the developers visit the website feedback section (it's the only section where I thought it would be seen.)

A paid service for a name change would be great, or if it came with the phantasia potion.

If someone did something to piss alot of people off and is generally blacklisted, I believe that if this name change thing did come into effect, that player should be kept blacklisted despite the name change or, give the name change a cooldown, like 3 months or something.

Name change is a common feature in pretty much any big game for the past decade. I don't see why there isin't one.

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Since there are a couple of people who do not like the idea of a name change.. why not a compromise? One-time name change only with or without the phantasia potion -or- If someone is blacklisted as a spammer/rude person, even when their name is changed they could remain blacklisted.

As other have mentioned, the people who do want the name change outweight the ones who don't.

We are trying to bring it to a compromise and even then the ones who do not want them still do not want to negotiate >_>

I do think they said it would be coming when they last replied to some stuff about the fantasia

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Originally Posted by MrSmiley

I do think they said it would be coming when they last replied to some stuff about the fantasia

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Holy shit source please <3

I will send you lalafell noodies.

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Originally Posted by Heal_Bot

I've decided to make a topic here because I don't think the developers visit the website feedback section (it's the only section where I thought it would be seen.)

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Just because you "don't think they do" doesn't mean they don't. Lack of a reply does not mean it isn't being read.

They do read it, and you should put feedback specifically directed at them (rather than trying to make discussion) in that forum section.

Need name change asap. Hate those bots using lore names. Newbies who don't know about the lore keep saying I and the bots have the same last name. Duh........

my name is heal bot :( and I am a paladin now

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Originally Posted by MrSmiley

I do think they said it would be coming when they last replied to some stuff about the fantasia

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Can you find where they said this? I looked but no luck but if you could find it you would make my day!

I don't see a problem with being able to change your name like once in the beginning with the potion. Now if it was whenever you wanted yea I might be inclined to disagree but once with appearance change, pfft na. Would like to change my 1st name myself.

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Originally Posted by Heal_Bot

my name is heal bot :( and I am a paladin now

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It's something a lot of people do it seems. They name themselves appropriate to the class they start out with.
Not sure if they knew in FFXIV you could level all classes on one character or they just thought they would never bother leveling anything else, but I personally think it's kinda silly to name yourself something like that period. It's a name, not a word/sentence...

My friend had the name Kabuki and I wanted to theme with her so I went Kazuki, we didn't know what to do for last name so we did Yoshiki... Big mistake, people think we are either Japanese players/rmt or dual boxing.

Name changes are a must in order for people to maximize the enjoyment factor of a fantasia potion gender change.

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Originally Posted by Ronald

Name changes are a must in order for people to maximize the enjoyment factor of a fantasia potion gender change.

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Exactly! Your characters name is a great example too. If you wanted to change to say, a hyur female... it becomes a bit odd to say the least.

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Originally Posted by DerpyCubone

Exactly! Your characters name is a great example too. If you wanted to change to say, a hyur female... it becomes a bit odd to say the least.

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Yeah I changed to Miqo female because I love how cute their mannerisms are but have to keep the name Ronald for now.

Aww, yea I thought I'd tweak a few things, but so far I'm just holding it in my bank. Those of you 1.0 players that might have two, you can put one on each retainer since they are unique. I wish someone had told me that sooner... :P

Does anyone have the source about it not changing names and why they decided to do that?

maybe the lack of a name change feature will get some of you to put a little more thought into your names. Those two word phrases that seem so clever when you first make them are usually regretted not long after, particularly when NPCs call you by only your first or last name.

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

maybe the lack of a name change feature will get some of you to put a little more thought into your names. Those two word phrases that seem so clever when you first make them are usually regretted not long after, particularly when NPCs call you by only your first or last name.

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That is not the case for everyone. My name is fine but when I made my toon I had never really played FF14 before. After a few weeks I realized I liked the cutesy things the female Miqo did and I ended up wanting to change. Why does it bother you so much that some people may have legit reasons to want a change? You can claim you don't care but you obviously do if you felt the need to post that.

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Originally Posted by Ronald

That is not the case for everyone. My name is fine but when I made my toon I had never really played FF14 before. After a few weeks I realized I liked the cutesy things the female Miqo did and I ended up wanting to change. Why does it bother you so much that some people may have legit reasons to want a change? You can claim you don't care but you obviously do if you felt the need to post that.

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Pardon me, where did I claim not to care?

I don't like people being able to change their name for many reasons. It makes it easier to escape a bad past and/or escape with the money/loot after screwing your LS or company over (e.g. take the loot and run). Yes, with name changes reflecting on people's black and friend lists it's not as easy, but it's certainly still possible.

Being able to easily change your name results in people putting less thought into their names, knowing that they can change it on a whim later. Yes, names like Magic Toaster and Barbeque Chicken may be funny at first, but then when your character is stuck with it, you learn to create names that you can live with in the long term.

Since the 1.0 name change was a 1 time thing it didn't bother me as much. But paid name changes will, unless they're expensive and heavily restricted (e.g. can't change again for a long time) so people will only do it if they're really serious about it.

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I have a lore based name for the race that I was before I got my potion. There was no attempt by me to be "clever", just me trying to follow the lore when I made my character.

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You should have considered that your existing name might not make sense if you chose to change your race/clan with your potion before making the change.

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Are you against server changes as well then? Because all that is also possible with a server transfer.

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Generally, yes. But I accept that they can sometimes be absolutely necessary, e.g. if a world is too full, or friends not knowing the other was playing, made their characters on separate servers. But a name change is never absolutely necessary.

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

maybe the lack of a name change feature will get some of you to put a little more thought into your names. Those two word phrases that seem so clever when you first make them are usually regretted not long after, particularly when NPCs call you by only your first or last name.

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I have a lore based name for the race that I was before I got my potion. There was no attempt by me to be "clever", just me trying to follow the lore when I made my character.

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

Pardon me, where did I claim not to care?

I don't like people being able to change their name for many reasons. It makes it easier to escape a bad past and/or escape with the money/loot after screwing your LS or company over (e.g. take the loot and run). Yes, with name changes reflecting on people's black and friend lists it's not as easy, but it's certainly still possible.

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Are you against server changes as well then? Because all that is also possible with a server transfer.

I want to change my character to a guy with the fantasia bottle, but I wanted to change the name too because Ruby isn't exactly a manly name.

And to add, I've been wanting to change it because I've been flirted with a lot (lol) and I keep getting the "you're too girly to be a guy" line so maybe just maybe, changing my character and name might help put a stop to it. Haha

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Originally Posted by Arasiel

My friend had the name Kabuki and I wanted to theme with her so I went Kazuki, we didn't know what to do for last name so we did Yoshiki... Big mistake, people think we are either Japanese players/rmt or dual boxing.

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With all the Strife s walking around people must think they are decaboxing

Anyway if the lodestone listed all the previous names and servers a player used it could avoid the issues raised above.

Besides RMT having a field day with this, another important thing is accountability. If you run off with mats you get a bat reputation. Also for the lvl 40sum genius on my server named "Period Blood" ..deal with it.

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Originally Posted by valhalla

Besides RMT having a field day with this, another important thing is accountability. If you run off with mats you get a bat reputation. Also for the lvl 40sum genius on my server named "Period Blood" ..deal with it.

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Again, a server transfer would do the same thing as a name change here, even more so. Are you also against server transfers?

Also do you really think RMT is going to pay for a name change? They pay as little as they can, they steal account and CC info and such when attempting to do their RMT stuff. They aren't just going to be randomly changing their names for x dollars a pop.

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

I don't like people being able to change their name for many reasons. It makes it easier to escape a bad past and/or escape with the money/loot after screwing your LS or company over (e.g. take the loot and run). Yes, with name changes reflecting on people's black and friend lists it's not as easy, but it's certainly still possible.

Being able to easily change your name results in people putting less thought into their names, knowing that they can change it on a whim later. Yes, names like Magic Toaster and Barbeque Chicken may be funny at first, but then when your character is stuck with it, you learn to create names that you can live with in the long term.

Since the 1.0 name change was a 1 time thing it didn't bother me as much. But paid name changes will, unless they're expensive and heavily restricted (e.g. can't change again for a long time) so people will only do it if they're really serious about it.

You should have considered that your existing name might not make sense if you chose to change your race/clan with your potion before making the change.

Generally, yes. But I accept that they can sometimes be absolutely necessary, e.g. if a world is too full, or friends not knowing the other was playing, made their characters on separate servers. But a name change is never absolutely necessary.

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Not everyone is good at coming up with names, or are rushing to play with their friends so they just put whatever. I hated my old FFXI character's name. After I had decided to come back and make a new character after "quitting" for a few months, I spent the next 2 days at work coming up with names. Good names, names I would be proud of. Every single one was taken. I was dumbfounded, none were ripoff style names. I hit random and it just produced faceroll garbage. So I just put in the first thing that came to mind and went with that. Now down the line I was able to come up with a decent non-taken name that I managed to snag after 2 server hops(One away because all my friends had quit playing, and one when they came back 6 months later). But even after spending 6 months off the server, people still knew who I was when I came back by one mention of my old name, which I was still called and am still called today. So your not going to be able to escape bad reps as easy as you think.

Same thing happened here to a bit. I wasn't sure if I wanted to play a Roegadyn or a Miqo'te, but I went with a Miqo'te, because that's what I played in 1.0, and I was a Mithra in XI. So I tried to come up with names. But I suck hardcore at it. I even asked my favorite author if he would give me a character name, he said no of course but seemed amused I asked. So after about a week of off and on coming up with names, I had a nice list of first names and a nice list of last names and none of them went well with each other. So when the game came live, I wanted to play with my friends... hit random, didn't hate the name, so I went with that. I liked the character fine, just wished I would have gone with a Roegadyn instead, and once I found out I would be getting 2 potions of remaking awesomeness, I took the plunge. I couldn't really start over, as I am playing with friends and can't really ask them to wait on me to catch back up.

And for the server transfer, even though you said you don't like it you seem to be missing the point I'm trying to make on it. It's already a thing, it's coming. People will be able to escape their bad raps, which i personally think you are over-blowing a tad, with this service. So why not go ahead and add something in to make other people happy, even if a small few might use it to pull a fast one instead of using a server transfer to the same effect?

Bottom line this is a game, meant to be enjoyed. I feel like I could enjoy my game better, without causing anyone any harm, if their was a name change service added to the game.

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Originally Posted by DerpyCubone

Again, a server transfer would do the same thing as a name change here, even more so. Are you also against server transfers?

Also do you really think RMT is going to pay for a name change? They pay as little as they can, they steal account and CC info and such when attempting to do their RMT stuff. They aren't just going to be randomly changing their names for x dollars a pop.

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Sure they steal accounts, but they're damn good at leveling their own. Name change would obviously be done by the player acquiring the account. No loss on their part.

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Originally Posted by valhalla

Sure they steal accounts, but they're damn good at leveling their own. Name change would obviously be done by the player acquiring the account.

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So why not just do a server transfer instead and rename it that way?

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Originally Posted by Ryuni

It's a name, not a word/sentence...

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Unless your a Hellguards ~.^

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Originally Posted by DerpyCubone

Unless your a Hellguards ~.^

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I can't argue with that, I admit my mistake D:

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Originally Posted by DerpyCubone

1. It's not a deterrent if they are already doing it
2. The consequence is the loss of funds
3. I don't understand your point, if they aren't unknown for long why does it matter if they change their name? I think you just made my point for me.

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Not going to continue the numbered list chain of quotes. I do understand your point that they really could just server transfer and force a name change that way. I understand that is a necessary evil and cannot be avoided, however this will still make it more of a sacrifice for most of the first 2 of my original points because a good portion of these people will bare with it rather than leave all their friends behind. As for second chances and people can change I wholeheartedly agree and what a better way to change your attitude then to roll a new character or transfer to a new server. Name changes would just enable people to do whatever they want, then change their name every 3 months or whatever the timer is. As for the third point we can't stop everything bad from happening but if it becomes a real problem then SE can hold open transfer periods where we can transfer to new servers but only during specified times. This would let people transfer to servers to meet up with RL friends and whatnot but prevent people from freely transferring changing their name and getting away with whatever dastardly crimes they committed whenever they want.

The bottom line is bad decisions do have consequences, and us giving these people more options to avoid karma slapping them in the face is just us supporting these peoples behavior. I understand it is a game but people come to this game for enjoyment but it is hard to escape and enjoy yourself when you have to deal toxic players. Enabling them to continue to act like that is just asking for more to follow along and I'd rather repair the damage then to further destroy this community. SE clearly doesn't care about the major issue people are having with giefers and they are overwhelmed with the number of RMTs we are plagued with so unfortunately we as a community need to help karma along with our own brand of justice, and that isn't possible if we beg SE to enable offenders to avoid scrutiny by disappearing with a name change.

I'm not saying no never to name changes period but I am saying no here and now because I know SE wont implement a system to prevent toxic players from escaping community justice while allowing others to simply change their names because Bubba McMuscles isn't a good name for a character gender/race changing to a female lalafell or a kid finally passes the pre-pubescent stages and realizes that his character CloudXXX StrifeX is just the same as a toddler running around in an ironman mask and wants to pick an actual personal unique name now that his brain isn't running off of duplicating observed content.

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Originally Posted by MrSmiley

I do think they said it would be coming when they last replied to some stuff about the fantasia

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where did they reply about fantasia?

I agree, name changes would be nice.

I'm not understanding why people are opposed to a paid service like this. Toxic players are going to be toxic players regardless of their in-game name, so telling everyone that they are incapable of changing their name because of a small percentage of idiots is entirely unfair to the legitimate players of the game world.

I'm a role player, and if I happen to decide to change the appearance of my character via the fantasia potion because I want to role play someone different, then I'm going to also want to change my characters name to make sense with the potion.

And name changes are for non-role players too. People get tired of certain names, or they make a toon who's name they like at first but end up wanting to change it.

So long as their name gets updated on blists rather than deleted, I say let them name change all they want. Blist behavior should be permanent and up to the discretion of the blist owner. Its bad enough they can creat an alt and do whatever the hell they want again.

I understand and respect the reasons for opposition to the name change.

I hope it is implemented though.

Name changes will come as in every other MMO out there. The people wanting name changes outnumber the ones opposed to it.
Some will take advantage and change their name to escape their bad rep, but, a name change will not change their behavior and it will not take too long for others to categorize them.
Maybe some even learned from their behavior and use the name change as a new start.. Miracles have happened...

I'm fine with name changes actually.. Primarily because people don't change their behavior.

An asshat changing his/her name may give them a fresh start but their true colors will come back along with their bad behavior. So, even with a name change said people will get another bad rep just like before. Those with a bad rep who think that they will somehow magically become a new and better person for humanity is a joke on themselves.

damn this thread exploded

Because some of us desperately want this service and are not griefers.

My friend and I both got Tickets in requesting for a name change and it was escalated to another team, still waiting for a response from that team. I'm wondering if the Fantasia will just be updated to name change.

I don't see a problem with the name change as long as it has some long cooldown and if the blacklist updated with the new name if the person changed his/her name. If I'm not mistaken you can change the sex of your character with the Phantasia potion right? So it would be nice to be able to change your name too. :)

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Originally Posted by RedAntares

I don't see a problem with the name change as long as it has some long cooldown and if the blacklist updated with the new name if the person changed his/her name. If I'm not mistaken you can change the sex of your character with the Phantasia potion right? So it would be nice to be able to change your name too. :)

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You can indeed change your gender with the potion.