By all rights changing to a new class is changing to a new character. The only difference is you're doing it on the same name and model and you don't need to log out.
SE have pretty much discouraged us from creating separate characters. With talk of having advanced jobs (Job + Job = Adv Job), an extra fee to have more than one slot on the same server and the fluidity of the system they have convincingly funneled most players onto one character.
Therein lies the problem though. Once you run through all your quests on one class, you are left with slim pickings the next time around. Some dotted quests around the world, a few story quests and maybe even enough to get you to 15 (which takes no time anyway with Armory buff).
Your options? Grind limited leves (6 per day), grind fates or grind dungeons. Dungeon queues are horrible as DPS and fate grinding is not even really playing the game; it's sitting in town waiting to venture out for 30 seconds to mash some keys.
Why don't quests reset on class change?
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09-26-2013, 02:07 PMHostarWhy don't quests reset on class change?
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09-26-2013, 02:22 PMSylve
I've been leveling my alt classes through the DF exclusively, and doing a couple of Leves if im really close to a level at which i get a new dungeon.
If you're leveling a new class to 50, find a friend interested in doing the same as a Tank or Healer and get faster queues. Or level a Tank yourself.
Hunt around for FATEs while doing the Hunt Log. Do a Crafting or Gathering class while in the queue if you don't have friends.
Or just suck it up and cry in a corner until your DPS queue pops. Your choice. -
09-26-2013, 02:27 PMHostar
Do you work in marketing? You really know how to polish a turd and make it sound awesome.
The point of my post is forced group content and limited hunting logs is an unstable form of leveling. Less and less people are dungeon running and some zones are becoming barren when it comes to FATEs. leaving huge gaps in leveling.
I didn't ask "yo guys how do i level", I was asking if SE plan to relieve this declining situation. One can only hope with repeatable quests being added there is some love towards the leveling situation. -
09-26-2013, 02:29 PMSylveI enjoy my time on the game doing what i mentioned.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hostar
Do you enjoy your time in the game? if not, thats what the Exit Game button is for. -
09-26-2013, 02:34 PMHostarThanks for your input to the thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sylve
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09-26-2013, 02:39 PMNeasaWell, you could actually make some friends and bypass the queue, but you don't seem very likeable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hostar
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09-26-2013, 02:40 PMHostarBless, did Sylve get his buddy to post for him? You're both from the same world and if I cared enough to check probably the same guild.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neasa
Some wonderful input from two critical thinking people - much obliged to you both. -
09-26-2013, 02:45 PMMackaI dont know why they said people are not doing the low level dungeons when I instant que from Sastasha to Hauke manor today and it seem like every dungeon I did today there was some new players in it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sylve
Also, to the OP you can do way more then 6 leves a day and if you level 50 and still have story quest on your second or third class you doing something wrong. -
09-26-2013, 02:48 PMHostar1) That's because you're leveling tank classes. Your char info says Glad/Mara.Quote:
Originally Posted by Macka
2) You earn 6 leves a day, so I don't see how you can do way more unless you don't use them.
3) You get story quests for each class - you might want to check your trainer. -
09-26-2013, 02:52 PMMackalevel 50 monk level 15 lnc going to be leveling ACN tomorrow there is no more then a 15 wait on anything thats not endgame.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hostar
I have 99 and is capped I can burned thru twenty right now and will have 99 again by the weekend.
Those are not Story quest those are class and Job quest that happen to have they own story but in no way connected to the main story.
Also, if you going to check my profile check all the classes I have leveled not just two and one of the two you named isnt even high enough to do Dungeons. -
09-26-2013, 02:53 PMTwoswordsQuote:
Originally Posted by Sylve
Being condescending and making an assumption one has no friends doesn't really put you two up for the most likeable people of the year either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neasa
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09-26-2013, 02:57 PMBrises
Each class has it's own guild quests every 5 levels, but the main story can only be done once. It would be nice if each class had it's own unique story quests separate from the main story. It would make leveling secondary classes more interesting.
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09-26-2013, 03:32 PMSylveWho said i wanted to make people like me? I am who i am.Quote:
Originally Posted by Twoswords
I told him several ways to go about putting his time in the queue as a DPS to use, And he responds with hostility. If he wants to sit in a corner and afk till his DPS queue pops instead of finding friends or utilizing the world, thats his prerogative, not something the devs have to fix for him. -
09-26-2013, 03:42 PMGilraen
I have to agree with Sylve, there's no lack of thing to do in the world. There's more quests than just the storyline, there's more dungeons than the storyline dungeons, there's alot of leves of every level, there are guildhests even. And as has been said, you don't have to do alot of the content alone. There are linkshells and free companies to join to facilitate quick partying. But all he seems to want to see is a fix to make his waits lessened. Can't satisfy everyone, I guess.
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09-26-2013, 03:49 PMKaedan94
Why in the world would I want to repeat the same old boring fetch and kill quests I just finished with one class with another? Or repeat the storyline quest on another job? That's just silly.
You have plenty of options for leveling secondary jobs. Hunting log, FATEs, Levequests, Guildhests (first time), and Dungeons. In fact, FATEs/Dungeons/Levequests are actually FASTER than quest leveling. I wish I had just skipped all the sidequests as I leveled and just did those, but it was a learning process. -
09-26-2013, 03:57 PMSylveGuildhests actually provide the same XP as a solo Leve of the same level. They even have completion bonuses for no deaths and such that make them on par with solo Leves, theres just no limit on them. If you have a solid group of friends wanting to level, Guildhests will provide the same XP per completion as spamming Leve.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaedan94
I think the only difference is with the XP bonuses for difficulty. Guildhests get better kill XP. So i think it rounds out. -
09-26-2013, 04:39 PMNeasaNope... I don't think I've ever met them, actually. There aren't any "guilds" in this game, by the way. Imagine how less foolish you'd look if you hadn't even brought this up. ^^Quote:
Originally Posted by Hostar
Going by his attitude before I even posted and his inability to group with people, it's a very safe assumption. It's just another child whining that they can't have things handed to them on a silver platter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Twoswords
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09-26-2013, 04:48 PMAridElf
I've been floating between 65 and 80 allowances for the last two weeks, I don't know how people are able to burn through their daily allowance every single day. Go fishing, do your class hunting log, GC hunting log, crafting, exploring, chill in town and chat to people.
The world is your oyster, stop treating it like a pebble. If you don't like how the game functions you are more than welcome to put a well thought out feedback post in, just please stop complaining about having to work for some things. I bet you think gil is too hard to come by too. -
09-26-2013, 04:50 PMMackaThats what Im saying and even burnt though 50 in one day and didnt run out.Quote:
Originally Posted by AridElf
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09-26-2013, 04:56 PMFelis+1Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaedan94
reseting the quests is a bad idea. New questlines is the way to go. -
09-26-2013, 05:04 PMKraggy
SE's talk of a 'new' type of content (for the game, not for an MMO) coming in 2.1 possibly indicates they'll be adding a traditional daily grind it seems to me.
They won't 'reset' the quests, it's not SE's philosophy, they' see doing that as making it too easy and profitable item/gil-wise.
In FFXI they allowed you to change nations and replay the main story missions for your new city, some were unique with some common to all, but in XI of course you never got XP for doing quests, given you do in XIV I think Hell would freeze over before SE give XP for repeating the post-15 main story stuff either.