Bravura Impossible To Obtain?

From what I'm reading in these forums is that Warrior not only isn't needed for Hard Mode primals but if you go as Warrior you're holding the whole party down....
If it is so then how the hell I will get Bravura the relic weapon when the requirements are asking me to fight HM primals as Warrior.

I know for a fact WAR can easily tank Ifrit HM... I haven't done the other HM's yet but I doubt this is the case?

You read what idiots type and believe it. That's your problem.

Its very possible and very doable, as long as you have the gear.

EDIT: I meant this for Titan.

That's just chicken shits demanding they do the fights the easy way. These people call themselves hardcore, then demand the group dynamics be as easy for them as possible.

Ifrit axe and artifact gear and darklight belt.

I see Warriors with Bravura all the time.

It's actually a little disappointing. Not much of a "relic" when everyone has it.

As it stands right now Warriors can tank anything in the game... except Twintania. That's not to say everything isn't easier with a Paladin though :P

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Ifrit axe and artifact gear and darklight belt.

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Probably fine for Ifrit, but you'll want some better gear for Garuda, and definitely for Titan.

People who say that about war either don't play the class or don't know how to play it properly. Plenty of folks walking around that I've seen with Bravura (and a few +1s at that).
Even the devs agree that people who say 'pld < war' haven't researched enough.

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Originally Posted by KenshinHimura

Ifrit axe and artifact gear and darklight belt.

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if you're trying to pug it, you'll want full darklight for titan

can be done with less, my first titan kill i was tanking him as war

you don't get the advantage DDs/healers have of being able to go into a fight undergeared though, tanks require gear, if you've got any piece of AF left, you're undergeared for titan.

garuda is doable... not much point trying for garuda when titan is out of reach though, go gear up first

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Originally Posted by Vmage

if you're trying to pug it, you'll want full darklight for titan

can be done with less, my first titan kill i was tanking him as war

you don't get the advantage DDs/healers have of being able to go into a fight undergeared though, tanks require gear, if you've got any piece of AF left, you're undergeared for titan.

garuda is doable... not much point trying for garuda when titan is out of reach though, go gear up first

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You dont need for dl for ifriti, af is fine. Now titan is another story.

Just did titan last night with a warrior tank, it was as smooth as butter. your point again?

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Originally Posted by Kuvu

You dont need for dl for ifriti, af is fine. Now titan is another story.

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Where is the word Ifirt in his entire post?

I MT'd Ifrit with no problem, it was easy mode. HM Garuda I ran with my FC and it wasn't difficult either. I will attempt titan later tonight or tomorrow probably. It's not difficult to do as war. People just experience bad warriors that don't know how to time Inner Beast properly and as such label the entire class as bad.

There are plenty of videos of Warrior on Turn five in BC as well. There is even a video of a guy doing HM Titan in Hoplight gear (AK) with a GC Weapon as a Warrior.

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Originally Posted by Benzareli

Where is the word Ifirt in his entire post?

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The word Ifrit isnt in your post or the the person you qouted lol. But the OP didnt say the word Ifrit he did say the words Hard Mode Primals and last I check Ifrit is a Primal, also if you look what Kuvu actually qouted the word Ifrit is in that post OP clearly states he has Ifrit Axe, AF armor, and DL belt.

Edit: Nevermind the person Kuvu qouted was responding to the Ifrit Axe, AF armor, and DL belt comment and Kuvu qouted him.

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Originally Posted by Shadowzanon

Just did titan last night with a warrior tank, it was as smooth as butter. your point again?

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My point was about 2 threads today here claiming warrior is down powered and not good for HM fights so I started to worry also my own experience I went to AK as war and failed switched to pld and got win without anyone die.

By the way I got my answer looks like will be needing heavy darklight set to continue my fights. Thanks to all responding except the 1 line smart(dumb)ass answers.

Don't fool yourself into thinking all wars with bravura are actually tanking this. Wars can tank it even though it's far more annoying for healers (it's an easy fight anyways) but all the wars I've had in my winning groups were just dpsing instead of tanking because their friends were doing pld.

Warrior is the better tank for primals. Especially titan, if your on hyperion I can prove this to you.
TYVM
have a nice day

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Originally Posted by KenshinHimura

By the way I got my answer looks like will be needing heavy darklight set to continue my fights. Thanks to all responding except the 1 line smart(dumb)ass answers.

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Best thing to do is look at the item level rewards of said fights and aim for the Gear Tier of that with a few pieces of the one below and that will help you out a lot. Going into Garuda and Titan in AF is indeed doable, but you will need a tighter knit group than DF to do so.

I have a 50 WAR with the relic weapon.
I have a 50 PLD with the grand company weapon.

After playing both.. id take a PLD anyday over a WAR.

Now, im not saying WAR can't tank, its just easier with a PLD for the healers/group. I can tank with both and have no issues IF the rest of the group goes perfect.... PLD just takes damage much better.

The primals aren't that hard as a tank... after playing both i honestly dont see why people say WAR is harder to tank with.. its only harder as they take more dmg..


Ive yet to run into a fight that takes any effort playing either tank. It comes down to your healers and DD's not standing in shit..... And PLD makes it easier on the healers.