I don't know about you, but having someone randomly invite me to their party (and I've had one individual ask me three times in a row and even followed me around for a little) is a bit of a turn off. Is there some etiquette that I am unaware of because seriously, having someone just invite you to their party because they either helped you, like your design, or whatever the reason may be is seriously annoying and frustrating.
I don't even get a hello! Just suddenly a pop up saying that so and so is inviting me to their party. :/ And it's pretty much always a dude too. Which is doubly annoying and probably a whole other topic for another day. But regardless, has anyone else experienced this? I always decline the invite and, other than the one incident of someone following me, nothing negative has really happened.
Doesn't make it any less annoying. :mad:
Random Party Invites?
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09-25-2013, 09:55 AMlineandcolorRandom Party Invites?
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09-25-2013, 09:59 AMDarkrotor
What were you doing? I do this sometimes when doing Leves and stuff because of a lack of mobs or something, I notice 3 other people trying to kill the same thing so I will shoot blind invites. Usually they accept and we kill everything we need then drop party. I will usually accept blind invites also in case somebody was trying to do /tell and clicked the wrong thing, usually to ask for a raise or something. Never has bothered me, if its totally random after I join I will just drop the party. its just 2 clicks of my time.
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09-25-2013, 10:08 AMoceanlord
usually this happen on mobs for quest and mobs that drop crafting material
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09-25-2013, 10:10 AMlineandcolorNope, they've all been completely random. The last time this happened, which was about an hour ago, I was fighting a toxic toad for my hunting log, someone helped me out, and then suddenly invited me. I declined and that was that. But the first couple times this happened, I wasn't doing anything at all! Just running to wherever I was headed to for a quest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkrotor
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09-25-2013, 10:14 AMDarkrotor
ya they probly needed a hand with something and didnt know what else to do other than invite to party. Do you try to communicate at all? or just decline and move on? A lot of people are trying this game as their first mmo...
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09-25-2013, 10:15 AMoceanlordyep! be nice! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Darkrotor
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09-25-2013, 10:19 AMlineandcolorThen they should ask for help, not just randomly invite someone :/Quote:
Originally Posted by oceanlord
Besides, I'm using a PS3 for this, it's hard to type things out at the best of times. But it shouldn't be too hard for them to ping me and ask if I could help them out. Otherwise yeah, I'll decline and move on. Sorry?
Also, this is my first MMO as well. -
09-25-2013, 10:24 AMDarkrotor
You just seem like your angry that people want to group with you to play. As far as being on ps3, your going to need to find a way to communicate eventually whether its through emotes or usb keyboard. They are probably also on ps3 and cant type fast, so they invite to make a little more time before your out of their line of sight. I just have not seen anyone attempt to troll by sending out blind invites, assuming these people are just trying to get help.
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09-25-2013, 10:27 AMoceanlordpossibly they are super newbie to gaming :P clueless and lost thats itQuote:
Originally Posted by lineandcolor
pretty sure you can use auto translate and choose appropriate respond for that moment (it's "tab" on pc, idk how to do it with gamepad) -
09-25-2013, 10:42 AMlineandcolorNo, just annoyed. If they want to group with me, they need to tell me why. I'm a complete stranger doing my own thing, if I don't know what the invite is for, I am going to move on. Why is that so strange or "mean"?Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkrotor
I don't mind playing with people, and I've gone through dungeons without needing to communicate all that much. But even so, if I could get a simple, "Hello, I need help with a mob, can you help me?" or something to that effect (a beckoning emote will do as well), I wouldn't mind at all being invited, since, you know, I would actually know what the invite is for. Otherwise, I will decline and move on.
I don't know why you're making it sound like this is the worst thing in the world to do. :/ -
09-25-2013, 11:11 AMeternalstar01
I keep getting this too. The last time (this morning), I logged in and was just standing around Camp Dragonhead and got a random invite with no message. It could have been a FATE group looking to fill slots, but I didn't want to join one (I certainly never asked in /shout), so I declined and moved on.
I vaguely recall something happening like this in Warcraft. I accepted it, back then, and it was an extra annoying gold spammer who wanted to advertise to me in the most invasive way possible. So I would say, just decline and move on. Blacklist the person if they're really bothering you. -
09-25-2013, 11:16 AMlineandcolorLuckily, it was only the one person that outright followed me around and asked me about three times to invite me to his party and friend request me, everyone else seems to accept that I've declined and moved on.Quote:
Originally Posted by eternalstar01
I'm glad I'm not the only one who things this is annoying though. -
09-25-2013, 11:44 AMlebirath
sometimes people are killing things above there lvl, is easier if u have smn healing u; or just farming, is easier in a party.
Also, sadly: EU seems to end up in NA servers ( no sure why / what the issue was) so some cant ask, and the auto translate (which i discover recently) imho is quite hard ( no that is an excuse, but..)
i had this char invite me to his party to heal him while he killed a monster lvl 31 for a quest (we lvl 29)
him: "together? u heal me? i attack X?
me: we are a lil low and area c 31, but give it a shoot
him: sorry, no? no eng
me: <invite to party> :)
some might be more shine about their eng or no english.. or like u hard to type
i always ask, but i dont mind the blind unvite (friends invite is a whole different thing) i can leave whenever, i might end up making another friend, could give me extra exp/mats... so why not?. and beside karma: " today you, maybe tomorrow me"
but at the end, your preference. just try to see the good side :)
enjoy. -
09-25-2013, 12:39 PMoceanlordyeah it's nothing bad at all, you just want to play your game that's all :)Quote:
Originally Posted by lineandcolor
everyone is free to do anything the way they want to do it, you paid for your account and your subscription by yourself -
09-25-2013, 04:23 PMJessikia
I don't always accept blind invites either. Sometimes I know why I'm getting the invite even though no one has asked me to join, I.E. Dungeon invite etc. depending on the time I have, and what I'm doing, depends on whether I'll accept the invite or not. If it's a blind invite I'll usually not say anything just decline, I don't see anything wrong with it, and if that's how you prefer to play, don't let anyone else dictate to you. :)
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09-27-2013, 12:04 AMAndersI agree completely. I call this "Ambush Friend-ing" and don't like it. I will automatically decline an ambush request. If you want my help, ASK for it. I'm a nice guy, and I actually enjoy being helpful, but I want to know WHY I should suddenly interrupt my plans to accommodate a stranger.Quote:
Originally Posted by lineandcolor
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09-27-2013, 12:24 AMBixbyDoes not compute. Why would it be any easier for someone else on a PS3 to start communicating than it would be for you?Quote:
Originally Posted by lineandcolor
In general, in most MMOs I've been in, it's considered rude to randomly invite someone to anything (party, guild, whatever). The only time I've seen it happening in FFXIV have been FATEs and when I've been killing hunting log mobs, and I give both of those a pass on being rude. FATEs, I could see, especially for a healer (who actually wants to heal). It's a heck of a lot easier to heal someone in your party than someone outside it, and in the middle of a FATE, there isn't a lot of time to type out pleasantries. Hunting logs do go faster if you're partied with someone who's after the same mob. And if the goal is speed, I don't feel the need to slow the process down myself with chit chat. I'm fine partying up, getting the kills, and dropping group without a word (beyond maybe a hello).
And that's the other side of the coin. For the couple of situations where I can see random invites being acceptable, I also don't see randomly declining, or accepting and then randomly dropping, being any less acceptable. Just not a big deal to me either way.
I've also had someone invite me to a group completely by accident. I don't know how. He's a member of my FC, though, and I recognized the name, so I accepted. It was in the middle of a FATE, so I imagine just random clicking on his part.
Edit: Just to be clear, I'm not trying to say you should accept the invites, or that the burden should be on you to communicate. I'm just saying for a couple specific instances, especially given the difficulty PS3 players without a keyboard have with communication, I see the typical etiquette as being a little different in this game. It's not ideal, but I get it, and I don't have a problem with it. -
09-27-2013, 12:59 AMFairweather
Blind invites (except in the midst of a FATE) are pretty rude. If the person inviting does not communicate then I will not accept. It's as simple as that. They invite - they should communicate. Otherwise it is just a spam invite.
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09-27-2013, 02:01 AMKincade
I also dislike blind invites (especially FC invites). Last time I accepted a blind party invite was a guy a few levels lower than the area. I assumed he needed help with a mission I had done earlier, and I could use the help on my current mission so I accepted. As soon as I accepted he ran into a bunch of mobs and started fighting, no dialogue. I ran in an joined the fight, and as soon as it was done (he finished his mission) he quit the party and ran off, never said a word. So I don't accept blind invites anymore.
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09-27-2013, 02:54 AMFairweatherThe total lack of any communication reminds me of some pretty bad duty finder dungeons I ran in the level 15 series. No communication whatsoever - it was pretty soulless.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kincade
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09-27-2013, 02:59 AMMinny
I rarely get party invites... @ ___ @
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09-27-2013, 07:09 AMKazumac
Personally I just decline random invites and don't think twice. I've managed to erroneously send a party invite before too... But if someone was serious I assume they would say something first. As for communication in general, if you want better communication in your MMO experience you need to be the one role modeling it. Many times a quick tell to the person will clear it up. Or if the duty finder run is suffering from lack of communication, speak up constructively. Being on a PS3 isn't really a valid excuse.
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09-27-2013, 07:53 AMNaberrie
I got a blind FC petition signing last night from a total stranger. That was new. And unappreciated.
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09-27-2013, 08:08 AMlineandcolorYeah, I get a few of those too, actually... although one person didn't even bother to tell me, just friended me first ffff. I decided to ask who they were just in case it was a friend that forgot to tell me they got into FFXIV or something and found out they were trying to recruit all the miqo'tes for a free company. Said thanks but no thanks and moved on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Naberrie
Except it is when I'm just running through the area and I suddenly get an invite. If you're going to tell me that a quick tell can clear things up, but they should be sending me the tell first, not the other way around. Even if it's just a quick "Hi!" to get my attention will suffice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kazumac
I never said it would be easier, but given that they're already going out of their way to randomly invite me, they should take the time to say "hi!". I don't like being stopped while I'm running somewhere because I got that pop up yet again. But if someone says hello, I'm more inclined to not mind as much and see what's up. So no, I don't think the etiquette would be different. Maybe things will need to be said different or in smaller amounts, sure, but whatever controller you're using, if you're the one giving out the invite, then you're the one who needs to send the Tell first. Especially if you're on a PS3 controller since you know how difficult it is to type fast. I'm more patient with typing when I'm conversing than when I'm running and suddenly, "Player X has invited you to their party" and I have to stop and potentially get caught up next to a monster or whatever else.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bixby
And, as I've said numerous times, these don't involve dungeons or instances. This is just me running around an area doing a quest or my hunting log or something. Literally, I just had someone yesterday heal me and then ask me to join their party. Thanks for the heal but no, I'm not joining your party. Sorry if I'm sounding more and more annoyed but this is getting ridiculous and people telling me that I'm being the rude one or don't have some sort of valid excuse (why do I need an excuse to not want to pause what I'm doing so I can type up, multiple times, why is Player X asking to join his/her party on a PS3 controller?). If it's important enough, they need to tell me.
But I guess I'll just be the one who looks rude for declining blind invites. :/