DoL Leves are terrible!

The XP and rewards aren't very good. You also spend a lot of time gathering, and don't get to keep anything you gathered.

1) You can probably get nearly as much XP just gathering (maybe I'm wrong here).
2) The "reward" of gathering on your own seems greater than what you get for completing the quest.
3) There are better uses for Leves, particularly DoH - which seem MUCH better.

Disciple of the Land leves are fine. At low levels it only takes a set or two of them to ding, at later levels it takes more, but let's do the math:

For my level 43 miner, a pair of DoL leves gives about 40-50k exp in rewards. Let's average to 45k.

Now, leves are better than regular gathering for regular exp because each node will have 6 swings, allowing for higher chaining and giving more rewards for any gathering rate boosts you use.

Leves don't let you get HQ items, though. However, they do give a chunk of exp at the end.

So, as to whether or not they are exp efficient we just need to compare of bonus exp from the leves relative to the bonus exp from HQs.

Two leves will take me about 5 mins (or less) to accomplish. In 5 mins, I can usually do, at best, 5 rounds of 4 nodes when gathering regular. Assuming one of those 4 notes gives a bonus gathering attempt, that's 17 gathers per round, so a total of: 85 gathering attempts. Let's assume, charitably, that they're all successful. With an average HQ % of pretty close to 15%, that means one will hit about 13 HQs during that period of time.
Now, at my level I get about 1k exp per HQ hit. So that's 13k exp from HQs if I spent that time doing regular gathering. If I spend that time doing leves, I get more exp from regular gathering and I get a minimum of three times the bonus I would get from HQs from the turn in rewards.

Finally, I don't get to keep the items but I do get gil. Usually about 800 gil per pair of leves. I could probably make more if I farmed the right item (though at some levels there's nothing worth gathering that makes for good experience), but I'm still making decent money. For instance, I have ~50 leves. If I did all of them levelling the rest of the way to 50, I'd make about 25k gil. As far as repair costs go, that's not a bad amount of money. There are some really decent earners at low levels though (shards and crystals) which probably make way more money than leves of that level would. So the results on this front may be more peculiar to the higher levels because of the fact that most items are being undercut like crazy and are near worthless to farm.

I disagree. Leves are much faster than just straight up grinding.

Totally disagree, leves are much faster for sure. You don't get to keep the items but you still get XP and gold (6 swings per node too). If you want the mats, grind it. If you need to level fast, do leves. I try to save the allowances for DoH 3X turn-ins so I just grind it.

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Originally Posted by IbnSina

Disciple of the Land leves are fine. At low levels it only takes a set or two of them to ding, at later levels it takes more, but let's do the math:

For my level 43 miner, a pair of DoL leves gives about 40-50k exp in rewards. Let's average to 45k.

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There are no high lvl levs that give 40k per lev. The highest lev 45 turnin you can do is 30k.

I just wish the leves had a wider variety of nodes (some have you running between like 3-4 of the same ones over and over).

just wait until you hit 50 and go stare at the market board :)

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Originally Posted by Azdraik

There are no high lvl levs that give 40k per lev. The highest lev 45 turnin you can do is 30k.

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First of all, I said a pair if leves gives about that much.

Secondly, there are two evaluation based leves at level 45 which give somewhere around 36k in rewards if you get the highest evaluation bonus. So there are leves that give only 10% less than 40k anyway, which is pretty close.

Thanks for the responses. I guess they're not as bad as I thought. I've just been doind DoH leves and enjoying the triplers and the ones with nice items (diremite, silver ore) and DoL seemed underwhelming.

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Originally Posted by Simaril

The XP and rewards aren't very good. You also spend a lot of time gathering, and don't get to keep anything you gathered.

1) You can probably get nearly as much XP just gathering (maybe I'm wrong here).
2) The "reward" of gathering on your own seems greater than what you get for completing the quest.
3) There are better uses for Leves, particularly DoH - which seem MUCH better.

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DoL leves are way better if you only take up the ones where you can get 25% bonus. Yes, DoH leves are the best way to use leves but doing DoL leves is still faster than just gathering.

if you compare DoL leves to DoH leves however, it's very clear that they are leagues apart. DoL leves might be a net improvement upon grinding, but not by much and seems like a questionable use of your leve allowance if you are also levelling DoH classes