Ever increasing lag

Can anyone tell me what is the cause of this lag?

When i am by myself, with NO other players within sight, my in game ping is what it should be for my distance from the game servers.

However, with a few players nearby my ping shoots up a couple thousand.

My Tracert is 100% normal, my manual ping times are also normal in the command box. But in game, it is so bad that red zones are completely unavoidable when other players are near by. I cannot figure out why it does this, but whenever there is NOBODY else around, i can leave a red zone a fraction of a second before it lands and it completely misses me.

Yet, with only 3 other players nearby in a dungeon group, avoiding red zones that specifically land on me is all but impossible, regardless how fast i move. Hell, i can be moving in a straight line when it lands on me, and i STILL get hit by it.

Yet this does NOT happen when i am alone.

I do 25 man raids in WoW, fill the entire screen with players in Aion, Tera and Guild Wars 2 - without the slightest hint of lag. I have really good internet - otherwise 25 man raids would be impossible. Oh and I am a healer in all of those games - yet ive never experience this much lag.

An example - Just idling in New Gridania, near the Aetherite crystal - 1600 ping. 20 seconds later in my inn room - 50 ping.

What i dont get, is that i can log out from 1600-2000 ping Final Fantasy XIV ARR, log into WoW and do a 25 man raid in 200-250 ping (normal ping from Australia), jump on over to League of Legends, do another few games in 240 ping, then do a few matches in Mechwarrior Online without the slightest bit of trouble hitting Light Mechs.

Then after all that, go back into FFXIVARR and get 2000 ping again.

And yet NOBODY has the slightest clue as to what causes it, let alone how to FIX it.

The most response i ever get is the standard response ''I dont have a problem''.

I just hope you don't mouse over that thing in UI that shows the amount of data you're sending or receiving ? :P

While in game press ALT+TAB then ALT+R type resmon. You should see the resource monitor now. Go to the network tab there should be ffxiv.exe in TCP connection then look for Latency column

Also you can PING and traceroute to NA/EU datacenter, in Resource monitor you will have IP of your server.

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Originally Posted by Erra

I just hope you don't mouse over that thing in UI that shows the amount of data you're sending or receiving ? :P

While in game press ALT+TAB then ALT+R type resmon. You should see the resource monitor now. Go to the network tab there should be ffxiv.exe in TCP connection then look for Latency column

Also you can PING and traceroute to NA/EU datacenter, in Resource monitor you will have IP of your server.

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Umm yeah.

The latency is blatantly obvious when I heal someone and it takes a second to actually increase their health, mounting up on my Chocobo and immediately hitting autorun only for the mounting to stop movement, and finally my total inability to avoid red zones despite easily moving out of them WELL ahead of the finished cast time.

I can mount up and immediately hit auto run without issue in WoW and TOR. This game, i simply cannot.

And still, nobody has any idea what causes this.

It's an increasingly common issue.

I'm trying to consolidate info about it here:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...connect-Issues

Thanks. At least SOMEONE gives a crap about those who are not enjoying a perfectly fine XIV experience. Majority of the responses i always keep getting are ''its not happening to me so it sucks to be you'' kind of rubbish.

Holy crap... i just changed the ''Large Send Offload v2 (IPv4) and (IPv6)'' settings and my connection turned to absolute CRAP! Now i am getting HORRIBLE lag spikes to which ive never seen before. Seriously, everyone on screen FREEZES for up to 5 seconds and then suddenly they all become SUPERMAN zooming across the screen like crazy.

If anyone has any information on this, even if of no use, it would be appreciated nonetheless.

Are you actually outside the red zone when it disappears and NOT when the ability lands? Ive noticed that in XIV if your inside the red zone before it disappears, regardless of whether you move out before the ability is cast (titans landslide is a good example) you will be hit.

Also, where are you checking your latency?

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Originally Posted by Will01

Are you actually outside the red zone when it disappears and NOT when the ability lands? Ive noticed that in XIV if your inside the red zone before it disappears, regardless of whether you move out before the ability is cast (titans landslide is a good example) you will be hit.

Also, where are you checking your latency?

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Are you actually reading this forum? Many posts about lag issues.

I've done some research into the issue and was able to compile some information here: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...87#post1302987

I also have quite a bit of historical trace routes and ping checks showing latency on the host end of the network. The goal is to raise awareness about the issue. If enough feedback comes back on the fiber and server companies, they will optimize and upgrade their connections or Square will give us the ability to re route around them completely.

With IT businesses, it's common practice to not address an issue until the building is on fire. Until that happens, I don't expect a whole lot of movement.

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Originally Posted by Marishi-Ten

I've done some research into the issue and was able to compile some information here: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...87#post1302987

I also have quite a bit of historical trace routes and ping checks showing latency on the host end of the network. The goal is to raise awareness about the issue. If enough feedback comes back on the fiber and server companies, they will optimize and upgrade their connections or Square will give us the ability to re route around them completely.

With IT businesses, it's common practice to not address an issue until the building is on fire. Until that happens, I don't expect a whole lot of movement.

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Aint that the truth. And dont i know it after years of this occurring everywhere.

The lag and rubberbanding during peak hours is very annoying. It actually makes it less fun to play sadly.

unfortunately, you have a few strikes against you, coming from AU. It's about +200 just getting across the pond to the NA shores, then when you finally get into Canada, things get even more screwy in route again.

Find the IP of your server with resmon, run a trace when you are lagging really bad so you have a good example, and forward that to your ISP if you can, as well as SE. Hopefully if we can get enough people attacking at least this part of the problem from both endpoints we can get some improvement on that front.

im in sydney using tpg... i have the exact same problem w chocobo, and fighting titan is a matter of sheer luck because avoiding landslide is as luck dependant as finding a sober man on a friday night....

i have lagg issues, i have found some of delay/lagg issues are caused by the client graphics.
VERY VERY HARD to explain but its not hardware graphics lagg its the clients software causing it & its to do with the resolution & also found if you turn off the decrease in frame rate option, it also helps suprisingly well in other areas of the game.
As for high vs medium graphics no difference.
as for monitor stock LED (has monitor lagg), ADV setting (no monitor lagg), ADV 1 setting, (no lagg).
Using Battleping also decreased the internet lagg & ping, Although going from 360ms to 160ms is good BUT IF YOU COMPARE TO TERA (MMO) which has 400ms-600ms (closer to 600ms ping Average) the lagg is a second in game YES Literally a second. GW2 (MMO) is also around the 400 ping mark & bearly noticeable Lagg.
Final Fantasy XIV ARR on the other hand: 360ms/160ms doesnt matter the lagg is anywhere from 3 to 7 seconds & anything 5 seconds or over cancels the moves you input.

I Hope they fix all the Lag Issue & comment on it soon, Because Titan is unbeatable almost solely due to it!

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Originally Posted by Shuon

im in sydney using tpg... i have the exact same problem w chocobo, and fighting titan is a matter of sheer luck because avoiding landslide is as luck dependant as finding a sober man on a friday night....

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I am also on TPG, but i am in Victoria.

Manually pinging any of the servers (or the data centers), Japan or Canada ones, yields roughly what would be expected - 250 or so ping. And running a trace also gives the exact same information. Arrives at the destination with about 250-300 ping.

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Originally Posted by prymortal

Using Battleping

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I had a look at that and was surprised when it attempted to install spyware and malware onto my computer. Suffice to say that has now been blacklisted.

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Originally Posted by mouseno4

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I had a look at that and was surprised when it attempted to install spyware and malware onto my computer. Suffice to say that has now been blacklisted.

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Better safe than sorry ~ So i dont think anyone will blame you for not understanding how a programme that needs access to change & reroute things works. Personally if i didnt know how to keep an eye on changes i wouldnt of installed it eaither.

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Originally Posted by prymortal

Better safe than sorry ~ So i dont think anyone will blame you for not understanding how a programme that needs access to change & reroute things works. Personally if i didnt know how to keep an eye on changes i wouldnt of installed it eaither.

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I was not talking about the program itself, but the spyware and malware it install ALONGSIDE the program.