Please add Vote Kick: Idlers in CM/Leeching

I'm a healer.. and I used to click "join in progress" incase .. stuff happens and people need help. Now, this is not an option anymore. Three runs in a row I've seen one person afk'ing at the start of the zone, hoping the other 9 will just run the instance and get them free currency.

Please give us a vote kick option to get rid of these people.

This please, sick of the people in duty finder that go full retard

yeah , in progress for castrum means joining a dungeon where there is only 1 player afk , until timer runs out.

I honestly like the idea of a vote to kick, but I also don't think this community is quite mature enough for that. Say, 7 friends queue up using Duty Finder. They clear run, get final boss very very low. Then bam, vote to kick the pug. They get the reward, meanwhile someone who worked hard, gets nothing. It'll happen. This community hasn't shown much maturity at all since launch. Very very toxic and immature.

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Originally Posted by Xenolithium

I honestly like the idea of a vote to kick, but I also don't think this community is quite mature enough for that. Say, 7 friends queue up using Duty Finder. They clear run, get final boss very very low. Then bam, vote to kick the pug. They get the reward, meanwhile someone who worked hard, gets nothing. It'll happen. This community hasn't shown much maturity at all since launch. Very very toxic and immature.

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Agree.
I'm against the vote kick.

When I see these people I just leave the group. 15 minutes debuff isn't much, and CM queue is quite short even for a DPS.

I'm against a vote kick for the same reasons stated above. If someone is leeching just report them. The SE GMs are good about taking out the trash on a consistent basis.

Now, this is a problem.

I'm the first one to admit that the afk guys have to be kicked, after all, it's not even aceptable to have someone leeching on everyone else hard work.
Now... on the other side... i agree that the community is not mature enough to use this option correctly. There will be unfair kicks. If one of the party member lags and take a hit, someone is bound to kick that guy.

Not a easy problem to solve, however, if there is a VOTE to kick, the problem may be solved if the votes needed correspond to the majority of the team members.

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Originally Posted by Karu-Kun

I'm the first one to admit that the afk guys have to be kicked, after all, it's not even aceptable to have someone leeching on everyone else hard work.
Now... on the other side... i agree that the community is not mature enough to use this option correctly. There will be unfair kicks. If one of the party member lags and take a hit, someone is bound to kick that guy.

not a easy problem to solve, however, if there is a VOTE to kick, the problem may be solved if the votes needed correspond to the majority of the team members.

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this. in a few games i have played, the party "leader" could mark someone to be kicked, and the other team members had to agree on it.

the vote had to have a majority for kick or nothing happened.

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Originally Posted by Xenolithium

I honestly like the idea of a vote to kick, but I also don't think this community is quite mature enough for that. Say, 7 friends queue up using Duty Finder. They clear run, get final boss very very low. Then bam, vote to kick the pug. They get the reward, meanwhile someone who worked hard, gets nothing. It'll happen. This community hasn't shown much maturity at all since launch. Very very toxic and immature.

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So then they should add in limitations to prevent that.

I think we do need the vote to kick option. Yes it will be abused by some people but that does not mean we should not have it. When a single dps acting like an idiot can ruin the group for everybody else its extremely annoying not to be able to kick them.

I wouldn't go with just a majority, it would have to be unanimous to kick a player.
All 3 or all 7 remaining players must vote the same.

That would help reduce the chances of an unfair kick, such as a guy lags a little bit and the PT leader sends up a vote and one member may be considerate and say give him a moment in case of lag or accidental disconnect.

But I do agree, if you're pulling trash and one member is sitting at the start, then he's leeching and he needs to be removed, you shouldn't be clicking commence if you're going to go afk.

And increase the penalty time to 1 hours for rage quitters.

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Originally Posted by LydallMomoda

And increase the penalty time to 1 hours for rage quitters.

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This needs to happen now, just had a tank ragequit ifrit because of no mage/summoner (it's more than doable without this). So he just screwed me and others over (personally waited 30 minutes...) and then he can just queue again and still get in before me, seems fair.

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Originally Posted by CyanDvai

I wouldn't go with just a majority, it would have to be unanimous to kick a player.
All 3 or all 7 remaining players must vote the same.

That would help reduce the chances of an unfair kick, such as a guy lags a little bit and the PT leader sends up a vote and one member may be considerate and say give him a moment in case of lag or accidental disconnect.

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Yeah, then the people out to troll will join in groups just to boot a pugger. Or the tank will sit there "I'm not moving until you all click to yes to kick <player>". Or people will initiate the kick to see who hits "yes". Having old wow flashbacks....

As to the people saying they should increase the penalty for leaving to an hour....lets see how much you want to have an hour punishment for trying to get away from 3 guys in a random group that are doing nothing but running in circles and calling eachother racial slurs for fun just to get you to drop and get the lockout.

Yeah it sucks to get these groups, but they have to be careful when adding stuff like this.

Votekick was an option in Rift and out of the literally thousands of dungeon runs I did, it was (arguably) abused once. We vote kicked a guy before a final boss so we could invite a guildy to the instance. The dude was being a douche, and we didn't feel bad about kicking him. In rift, the system had some checks - a person couldn't be kicked within the first few minutes and a person couldn't be kicked mid-boss fight. But then again, dungeon runs in rift meant nothing anyway because there were so many raid instances.

If WoW's userbase can have a votekick and use it for good more than bad, I'm sure FFXIV's community can manage that too. The devs just need to be smart about its implementation.