Invigorate bugged?

So far I've had three times over the past two weeks that Invigorate has not given me any TP. I'm just fishing around to see if other DRGs (or MNKs) have noticed this happening at all?

If so then I plan on putting together the information that is needed to report an in game bug, if I'm the only one then maybe I'm just missing something about fights having a TP drain or... I don't know maybe I'm just an uber noob. Who knows.

BRD. It's always worked for me.

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Originally Posted by Layenem

So far I've had three times over the past two weeks that Invigorate has not given me any TP. I'm just fishing around to see if other DRGs (or MNKs) have noticed this happening at all?

If so then I plan on putting together the information that is needed to report an in game bug, if I'm the only one then maybe I'm just missing something about fights having a TP drain or... I don't know maybe I'm just an uber noob. Who knows.

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I have indeed had this bug as well. I don't really know what causes it.

Does not seem to happen on my BRD.. might be a problem with just your class.. and obviously a rare one at that.

Not happened on MNK, perhaps theres a bug with your enhanced invigorate causing it to work incorrectly since your both saying the same thing and both happen to be lancers.

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Originally Posted by Tribunus

Not happened on MNK, perhaps theres a bug with your enhanced invigorate causing it to work incorrectly since your both saying the same thing and both happen to be lancers.

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I've been wondering if its something to do with the amount of TP you have. I've only ever had the bug occur when I was completely dry, which contributes to how rare it is.

Only happens to me while being hit while pressing the button, i.e in Titan during his tumult, invigorate will go on CD but fail to give me the 400 TP. Only time I have been able to replicate it.

never happened to my bard or monk

This was a huge issue for me on Turn 4 a couple days ago. About 1/3 of my invigorate's gave me nothing. I'm a monk.

It happens to me with all off global buffs from time to time. BfB, ir, pb, invigorate...all have had cases where they go in cooldown and nothing happens.

I'm only MNK42 (and LNC36) and have never had Invigorate fail so far, but now that Subucnimorning has mentioned it, I have experienced BfB sometimes going on cooldown without getting the buff.

I was pretty sure it happened with those buffs as well. I'm assuming it is the interaction of trying to fit a non-gcd in between 2 gcd skills.

Happens 20% of the time when I use PB. Really annoying.

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Originally Posted by Subucnimorning

It happens to me with all off global buffs from time to time. BfB, ir, pb, invigorate...all have had cases where they go in cooldown and nothing happens.

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This. It's even worse when it happens with Aetherflow as SMN/SCH, and then you go OOM and can't do anything.

/10chars

Haven't observed this myself. Well, that I recall.

Edit: I only use 1 OGCD between GCDs though. Almost never attempt to use multiple (intentionally or accidentally).

I always only use 1 off global ability per on global ability...still see it. Sometimes it does it with perfect balance when I'm not even engaged yet just hitting it on incoming.

perfect balance and invigorate bugs on me too sometimes

BRD and it's fine for me.

Happened to me a couple of time too.
Also happens with Leg Sweep. It sometimes only damage the target without stunning it (and the mob wasn't immune or resisted it, since it also happens in solo when there's no one else to stun). The "stun" doesn't even appear on floating texts.

I now agree with everyone else that this can occur on any off-GCD ability. I last posted on this a little less than a month ago, and I've tried to pay really close attention to when it happens. I still cannot reliably reproduce it, but I've narrowed down how it can occur.

When weaving off-GCD abilities the general moveset usually goes:

1) use ability --> 2.5s GCD begins

2) use off-GCD ability --> halfway through 2.5s GCD

3) 2.5s GCD ends --> use ability


However, if you are spamming the shit out of your moves (which we are forced to do to get them to activate), the following bug can occur:

1) use ability ---> 2.5s GCD begins

2) use off-GCD ability BUT ability does not trigger until 2.5s GCD has almost ended due to variation in triggering delays

3) off-GCD buff has triggered, but in the middle of the trigger your next on-GCD ability goes off due to button spam, interrupting the off-GCD action and moving into your regular ability instead

If you use the off-GCD ability right as the 2.5s GCD comes off, and too quickly move into your next ability, the off-GCD ability will trigger but fail to apply. This uses the cooldown, but gives you no buff because the application of the buff seems to be interrupted by the use of the next ability (the ability to interrupt off-GCD buff applications would be the actual bug itself). This only tends to occur during fights due to ability/off-GCD button spam, and I believe can only occur if the off-GCD ability is used right as a regular ability becomes available. You must be spamming both of them to create the interruption, and get unlucky enough that the off-GCD activation was delayed until the 2.5s GCD has almost ended.

If that's when it happens (most), it's good to know. Thanks for the findings. Of course I still hope S-E will fix it, but at least now we should be able minimize ability waste in the meantime..

I think it does add up with when I've noticed my BfB failing. I probably tried to do a GCD action, then spammed IR for a second and then spammed BfB, then went back to doing normal attacks. I've since then not bothered trying to do two off-GCD actions in a row.

Still keeps happening at least on dragoon.

Still happened to me on my bard yesterday when doing WP. It seems to happen whenever I'm spamming AoEs. Fix this junk SE!!

Bard here, abusing Invigorate every chance I get when AoEing (WP, turn 4), never a problem. Odd, it seems the bug is random and not job-dependent at that.

It happens to me all the time with infuriate on War. I have had mages in my group complain about it eating swift casts and benedictions. Not much you can do about it. Its an engine problem.

This happened to me last night in turn 4 I was pissed. Not just that but Perfect Balance has not given me the effect about 4 times so idk whats up with that.

Any buff just gets bugged sometimes, and also long animation skills(Demolish/Touch of Death) does in my experience.
I bet it's lag.

That bug also happen with Aetherflow (SMN / SCH), not givin any stacks and man it suck

I had invigorate bug two times in a row for me...it wasn't fun :P

I too do believe this is lag induced issue... similar to those drink pot, recover 100hp, get a 90hp hit, and die thing
Those who got no lag will never notice and SE in Japan will never care because of they domestic-heavy tradition

Happens with a lot of abilities. It's not exclusive to Invigorate.