How i know i'm ready for an instance?

Hello,
in another game i was playing there was a minimum statistic you needed to enter a dungeon and be able to survive.

Now in final fantasy - how i know my gear is enouph to enter for example IFRIT HARDMODE?

I dont want to make healers life difficult goingo undergeared but i dont want to wait till being overpowered, so how i know when i'm ready for each instance?

AF+ gear and GC or AH (materia melded) weapon and u ready to go:)

Ifrit hm can be tanked with any full set of level 50 gear pretty much. Basically get your level 50 gc wpn and run wp or ak a handful of times and you should be set.

Yeah as these guys have said you need to be aware of the gear required and a lot of the hard modes you need to know how it's done before you enter otherwise you are just going to let your team down. If you are looking for any guides just check out my channel I have heaps of walk throughs etc. Link below.

Channel: http://www.youtube.com/SafehouseGamingTS

Ifrit Hard Mode: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khoQQTY05vQ

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Originally Posted by Safehouse

Yeah as these guys have said you need to be aware of the gear required and a lot of the hard modes you need to know how it's done before you enter otherwise you are just going to let your team down. If you are looking for any guides just check out my channel I have heaps of walk throughs etc. Link below.

Channel: http://www.youtube.com/SafehouseGamingTS

Ifrit Hard Mode: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khoQQTY05vQ

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I LOVE the irony of this sort of reply .. because those that wrote the guides were born knowing how to do them and didn't have to learn.

I love how the 'pros' forget they too were 'noobs' once upon a time.

As a main tank, I did this in AF1 with GC weapon....

As a PLD, you will be on stun duty :P

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Originally Posted by Kraggy

I LOVE the irony of this sort of reply .. because those that wrote the guides were born knowing how to do them and didn't have to learn.

I love how the 'pros' forget they too were 'noobs' once upon a time.

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Sorry for posting a link to a guide that could be very useful to this person? I never once claimed to be pro or anything of the type, just trying to be helpful and your attitude is just really... meh.

You can do ifrit HM in vendor whites. This is what you should be doing after you run CM and Pretorium to get a weapon. You can also be doing CM speed runs and WP for tokens to get DL gear, to get yourself ready for AK/HM Garuda/HM Titan.

GC weapon
AF1
HQ LV 48-49 accessories

That is a fine starting point for 50+ basic content. I'd skip farming Wanderer's Palace as it's a waste of time and other better upgrades are near at hand. Farm Castrum Meridianum for Darklight gear while also doing Ifrit HM occasionally for a weapon. Once you have ~3 or so DL pieces, most people will be alright with you join Amdapor Keep runs; continue doing Ifrit/Garuda HM for a weapon as well. Continue adding DL gear and, once you have a primal weapon, you're generally set for Titan. Once Titan is down, finish your relic quest. Relic with DL (there are some mediocre DL pieces, like BRD hands / legs; AK gear may actually be optimal in some slots) / melded accessories is fine for Turns 1-3 of Coil. Turn 4 is tough; for DPS, HQ relic with a couple of Allagan / AF2 pieces and great accessories is pretty mandatory to stay ahead of the waves.

That's kind of a rough outline of how I would do the later progression if I was a fresh 50.

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just trying to be helpful and your attitude is just really... meh.

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I think his point was more towards this part:

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Originally Posted by Safehouse

you need to be aware of the gear required and a lot of the hard modes you need to know how it's done before you enter

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I don't think he meant a jab at you, directly. I think it was a jab at the endgame community, in general, which feels overrun by players who have decided that 3 weeks from launch is ample time for every player to be geared and experienced, unless they're an idiot. That's been my experience, anyways, as depressing and frustrating as it may be. Nobody wants to be a weak link, but there are still lots of players just getting to the end-game who don't know what they need, and the game doesn't gate them.

For my part, however, I'll be checking out your videos, because my WHM is in dire need of tips to survive Garuda HM's clones. Assuming, of course, the answer lies in tactics, and not gear.

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Originally Posted by IndigoDarkwolf

For my part, however, I'll be checking out your videos, because my WHM is in dire need of tips to survive Garuda HM's clones. Assuming, of course, the answer lies in tactics, and not gear.

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The clones phases are the most healing intensive of the fight, especially the first set where everyone is crammed into a small area and getting hit by Garuda's Friction aswell.

Whoever is off-tanking should just focus on one of the sisters and try and keep hate on it while DPS burn down the other one. You or the other healer will be tanking it but it doesn't hit all that hard and you should just be able to heal through his attacks with no issues.

Ideally you want to be as geared as possible - before taking on the next step of progression.
Once you hit 50, you can start getting

ilvl 50 Market
ilvl 55 via WP + Market.
ilvl 60 Ifrit + AK
ilvl 70 Garuda + Darklight
ilvl 80 Relic/Titan
ilvl 90 Relic +1 / Coil

You generally want to get as much as the previous tier before working to the next, this is not always the case as some fights are easier and you can get carried by other people in the group, there are fights which are more reliant on gear and some can be done totally by good execution. You will want to be almost fully ready for Titan and Coil, and be decently geared for AK since there are DPS/Healing/Tank.

From WP, AK, Ifrit HM. They can be done with AF1 + Weapon from story quest.

If you ask a question, "How do I know?" then here is my answer. Try all dungeons, including option one, and up to final story one. If you are not leveling with FATE and know how to rotate your skill, then you are ready.

The main problem is not gear, but skill especially with the FATE grind all over the place.

Garuda HM has dps check, e.g. easy one (plume b4 reckoning) and harder one (twin sisters)

Titan HM has dps check (heart + dmg after heart before unhealable)

p.s. Ifrit HM also has a dps check, but it is too easy if you have a caster for meteo in party, otherwise it is a real dps check.

Thank you all for your answers!

I don't see the issue with ifrit.... he isn't a dps race nor a healing race, and will do just fine with AF white. (and how do you get a GC50 without AK first, no one would have GC50 anyway unless they get carried in AK)

Even with the worse white weapons, at most you'll be getting one or two more turns of ifrit rush...it's not a big deal, the party either knows what they're doing or not.

garuda is way tougher, and more gear sensitive so that is indeed a gear check event.

But generally any fresh level50 with a decent head on their shoulders should be fine with ifrit to chew on, and unless they have really incredible luck, that'll keep them busy for a while.

If anything a sub job check is more important. Being gimp in some important skills is very bad at the start of endgame runs.

I have 2 hardlight items and waiting my 3rd before i go inside ifrit hard mode.
But if i'm correct i can offtank and do stuns, which would be easier for a new geared tank, correct?

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If anything a sub job check is more important. Being gimp in some important skills is very bad at the start of endgame runs.

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Oh man, this. I'm glad I was told as a CNJ to level up THM to 26 and get Swiftcast. Swiftcast+Raise is absolutely a mandatory combination for WHM in the endgame.

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Originally Posted by Simos

I have 2 hardlight items and waiting my 3rd before i go inside ifrit hard mode.
But if i'm correct i can offtank and do stuns, which would be easier for a new geared tank, correct?

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Any. There isn't a really harsh check to tank Ifrit, Warriors do it all the time. Better geared means you are less prone to dying durring the nail phase, but generally ifrit doesn't hit hard enough any fresh pld can die with a decent party.

Being a stun bot doesn't require gear, just requires...skill. They don't care if you're just auto attacking, as long as you stun that erruption.

Again the only phase which better gear is remotely required is durring the astral phase, and if you have stone skin skill, and have your defensive buffs all ready, you can easily live through that part, and all is good.

Ifrit isn't very difficult. I went in with a LV44 aetherial weapon from D. Darkhold with AF and crafted lv49 accessories. By the time you go after Garuda you should have some stuff out of AK and the Ifrit weapon or something close to it like Wanderer's Palace weapon from last boss or level 50 GC weapon. Titan you want to want to be geared up in at least all greens from AK with maybe some Darklight in there. A Garuda weapon would really help.

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Originally Posted by Alkimi

The clones phases are the most healing intensive of the fight, especially the first set where everyone is crammed into a small area and getting hit by Garuda's Friction aswell.

Whoever is off-tanking should just focus on one of the sisters and try and keep hate on it while DPS burn down the other one. You or the other healer will be tanking it but it doesn't hit all that hard and you should just be able to heal through his attacks with no issues.

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While I agree that it is the most healing intensive part, I disagree that the healer should be tanking any of the clones. Your tanks should be able to pick up all 3 enemies and hold them without much trouble. Keep your Shroud of Saints for when they spawn if you're having issues with getting too much threat, and make sure the ranged and the melee are spread out so that they aren't all taking Wicked Whirls.

Have fun!

Ok - i did Ifrit Hard mode 3 times and i have to admit i'm amazed of how people fail to dodge the aoe's and the clones.

All 3 times (with different healers) i main tanked and i was perfectly stayed alive without any stress. 3Rd time the PLD tank sword drop, so i think i was from the lucky ones.
Time to farm my 4th Darklight item and move to garuda i guess (:

Once again thank you all for the advice.

Chances are you are ready for a dungeon if you have the gear from the previous dungeon. If you want to do AK, get SV, AV, or WP gear. If you want to do Primal HM get AK/Darklight gear.

REALISTIC progression in gear would be as follows.

You'll want your full AF starter set ( of ocurse, not hard to miss this. ) and make sure you kept up with grand company promotions up until serg. Buy the level 44 green GC weapon. Trust me. It'll help.

With starter af and a green 44 GC weapon, you can do wanderer's palace for iLvl55 armor and a chance for weapon upgrade as well as running HM Ifrit side by side for a weapon drop chance.
HM Ifrit is not very hard at all. Avoid clones, and the plume dance.

Plume dance is inside, run outside, go back inside.

You can also easily do Caestrium/Praetorium for tome farm to get more gear.