Never seen so many lazy people playing an MMO

I could understand if this were a game that didn't have so many convenient ways to travel. If you died in older MMO's you have to run for a long time to get your body back which actually helped you discover the world better. Here it's like people are breaking their nails it's sickening

Even in WoW people actually ran back to their body or even ran to the closest resurrection point. When I see people say "OMG i'd rather die than play WoW" but you can't even run back to your own body without yelling for someone to come rez you in this easier than ever MMO on the planet game, disgusting

Man I'm glad I'm not into this like other games I've played, the world of the adventurer has been reduced to laziness

I had someone yell at me because ...

I didn't raise them fast enough

I was on my Botanist. Found a Dead Body. Switched to WHM (costing me like 450 GP).

It takes about a minute for Raise to be ready.

He send me 5 tells yelling at me telling to to hurry up.

So, instead of a raise he got {Lalafell} {tea} {bag}

This is pretty much a throwback to FFXI. People would lose EXP for dieing so there were regular raise shouts.

If you are able to raise it really is not that annoying raising people. Actually it can be a good way to strike up a conversation with another player. As much as it could be considered lazy I think it can also be a very small effort (from the healer) which perhaps can help a little to build the community.

Anyway, if you don't want to raise then leave them in the dirt, and if the death-wails annoy you there is always an ignore option.

Not everyone places their homepoint in the zone they are currently in. Either it's a choice they make or they just forget to set it. So when the walk back is from Limsa Lominsa to Mor Dhona that would be a pretty long walk back or costly teleport. I'm not saying people have the right to be rude about it of course. But there is reason why some are hoping they might get a raise from a friendly fellow who's in the same zone as them.

Asking for a raise and demanding a raise are two differnt things, for sure. If you die in a zone different from where your home point is, then you need to deal with that fact, suck it up, and move on. It's nobody's issue besides your own. If someone helps you, than that is awesome, and you should be both happy and thankful. But to assume that someone owes it to you to raise you, and to demand them to be fater or how to do your job, that is entitlement in the very sense, and they can lie in the dirt in child's pose, lol.

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Originally Posted by Suellen

Not everyone places their homepoint in the zone they are currently in. Either it's a choice they make or they just forget to set it. So when the walk back is from Limsa Lominsa to Mor Dhona that would be a pretty long walk back or costly teleport. I'm not saying people have the right to be rude about it of course. But there is reason why some are hoping they might get a raise from a friendly fellow who's in the same zone as them.

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I haven't moved my homepoint once. It stays right in Ul'dah so I always have that free teleport back to town with Return. I can't imagine moving it anywhere else.

Well it was nice seeing you.

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Originally Posted by Kyouko

blah blah blah other games blah blah WoW blah blah omgthis game is eazy mode because you don't have to walk far! blah blah blah

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thankfully more than enough people in-game do not think like you. I gladly move halfway across a map to raise someone and then smile when I realise there's usually at least 3 other people just arriving when the dead body is being lifted already.

so far people are really helpful. I'd rather keep it that way. I do NOT consider walking for hours 'hard'. if I want to walk for hours I go outside and walk there.

1) As a White Mage, if I happen to be in the same area (generally about a quarter) of the map as the person yelling for a raise, I'll generally do it. It doesn't cost me anything, and hey, I'm right there anyway.

2) I would totally walk away from anyone who complained that I wasn't fast enough on the raise. And though I wouldn't do it, I am amused at the Lalafell tea bag.

3) I generally play for an hour or so after work. If I've only got an hour, I don't really want to spend twenty minutes travelling. I don't mind the number of quick-travel options, and I'm really glad that one doesn't have to wait fifteen or twenty minutes for the airship to arrive, and then another five or ten watching the airship travel.

When I'm in adventure mode, I almost always swap out my homepoint to whatever is closest to where I'm working. Having lived through naked corpse-runs in other worlds, it's just a habit.

That said, I try to raise folks who ask, even though I often wonder why they didn't bother to bind nearby. If I'm fairly close and can reasonably get to them without endangering myself, I'll generally give it a go. Everyone has always been polite, which is gratifying. Haven't raised a grump yet.

I'd like to take this opportunity to remind folks that, if you use <pos> in your raise request, you make it easier for people trying to find you.

Typing "/sh May I get a raise at <pos>" will create a link in chat with your current coordinates. When people click on the link, they'll get a flag on their map at your specific location. When I see raise shouts, I try to mention this to help spread the word. I think of it as a Public Service Announcement :).

Considering all of the players are sitting on their ass playing the game, I can see why they're lazy sometimes.

I don't mind giving somebody a raise if they're nearby but I wish more people would understand that if I switch classes my raise is on a ~30s cooldown. You'll get your damn raise so don't whisper me about it while I'm waiting for the cd.

They almost never thank you either. Usually raising somebody means I wiped out my GP to do so.

lol @ "Back in my day" MMO topic

I would love for SE to make it so no one while they are dead can shout. If someone die's for whatever reason than it is their own fault and should not expect another player to raise them. If it was a fate than I dont have a problem but honestly I really am not gonna go looking for someone dead body that are shouting.

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Originally Posted by Maxthunder

I would love for SE to make it so no one while they are dead can shout. If someone die's for whatever reason than it is their own fault and should not expect another player to raise them. If it was a fate than I dont have a problem but honestly I really am not gonna go looking for someone dead body that are shouting.

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Wow talking about a grinch lol

Lazy Guy123: {|Raise|}{|Yes, please|} <pos> {|Thank you|)

I remember when you actually wanted to travel normally because anima weren't the most fun thing to replenish/weren't able to be replenished quickly. It's convenient in a way but basically that beautiful world that everyone tried to hype up has become limited to revenant's toll, story dungeons, and primal circles.

Eh, I don't mind if people shout for a raise... Even I'm guilty of doing it once, 'cause I was stupid and got cocky on a leve. >.>
What I do mind is when that person gets a raise, and doesn't announce the fact, wasting the time of people who were still on their way to help.

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Originally Posted by Zozorozo

It takes about a minute for Raise to be ready.

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Either 30 seconds or the skill's own cooldown.

The more you know.

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Originally Posted by Waliel

Either 30 seconds or the skill's own cooldown.

The more you know.

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When you switch classes you gotta wait for all skills to come off a minute global cooldown.

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Originally Posted by Amiabelle

Typing "/sh May I get a raise at <pos>" will create a link in chat with your current coordinates. When people click on the link, they'll get a flag on their map at your specific location. When I see raise shouts, I try to mention this to help spread the word. I think of it as a Public Service Announcement :).

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I didnt know that, thanks for sharing :cool:

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Originally Posted by Macka

When you switch classes you gotta wait for all skills to come off a minute global cooldown.

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No, it's 30 seconds for skills with no cooldown or the skill's own cooldown.

http://i.imgur.com/r2G3dpE.jpg

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Originally Posted by Waliel

No, it's 30 seconds for skills with no cooldown or the skill's own cooldown.

http://i.imgur.com/r2G3dpE.jpg

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lol well learn something new everyday but I feel like a minute when you sitting waiting to use your skills.

I thought what I'd do was, I'd pretend I was one of those deaf-mutes.

and how many times of running back to your body did you have to take rez sickness cause your body was unreachable? Thats a big issue with runnin back.

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Originally Posted by Zozorozo

I was on my Botanist. Found a Dead Body. Switched to WHM (costing me like 450 GP).

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lol, when i seen that i thought "why did it cost you money to switch to WHM" because i was thinking D&D where GP is money...then i was like "oh, right, gather points...not gold pieces"

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on topic:
if i am running through an area and i see someone dead i will res them (though usually if i see someone dead they are AFK and won't accept the raise...because people not AFK go back to their home point as soon as they die) also if i see someone having a tough time with an enemy i will stop and heal them and keep them healed until they are done with the enemy. i wish i could buff them, i miss that from 1.0 just giving random buffs.
nothing helped a low level player grind enemies like getting stoneskin and protect casted on them. feels good, you feel a bit invincible, like "yeah take that glowfly! want another!? what are you looking at beatle? i'll kick your ass too"
i loved getting random buffs and i loved giving random people random buffs. was nice, you know you made someone's experience a little bit better.

but now all the buffs seem to be party only...why? why you do this SE? LET ME HELP PEOPLE!

If you die during a levequest, and port back to town out of the zone you are in, you will fail the levequest and that levequest will be wasted. Getting a raise means that you don't fail the quest, and can be very important if you're on a tight allotment of levequests.