Game needs vote-kick in Duty Finder.

Yes, another topic on vote-kick.

Duty Finder attracts all kinds of trolls and leeches in the game and I'm very tired of it. It's designed in such a way that people can bring out the worst in them and easily get away with it. There's no vote-kick option, there's no afk detection, you can't even blacklist -most of- them.

We're forced to run certain instances countless times for tomestones. I don't mind the grind, I have already done it enough to get a full set of darklight and I'm used to grinding. However I'm tired of people ruining the runs, some go as far as preventing you from completing it and causing you to waste a huge amount of time. Sure, I report them and maybe SE cares about it and punishes these players but to what end? By then the damage is already done, your run (and possibly other several runs) is ruined.

There are no built-in mechanics to discourage players from this and I believe this needs to be addressed urgently. Vote-kick needs to be implemented. Is it abusable? Yes, possibly. Is it still going to improve the current situation? Yes, a lot.

I will also briefly mention that this lack of autonomy is a huge part of the reason why people are extremely mean, rude and outright toxic towards other players in the group, but that's another topic for another day.

You acknowledge that it's another thread on the same subject. But instead of adding something new to the discussion, you just repeat what everyone else says.

This is why we don't need a vote kick. This guy right here. People with friends can run with their friends. People without friends complain that they can't kick other people without friends.

If you didn't act like you're more important than everyone else, you would have friends to run dungeons with.

I don't think it will help much because people can still abuse it.

And say you are kicking a more important role such as the tank or healer. Majority of the time people playing these jobs will not queue in progress, which means the dungeon is now over.

You can wait for a replacement, but time will keep ticking until you no longer have enough time to complete your run, and you probably never got that replacement anyway.

Vote-kicking works so well in WoW, when they enforced a "reason" to vote and people would plug in "'cause" or ":)" and others would STILL kick them. Imagine being the odd man out in a group run and getting vote kicked before the chest gets opened? Imagine this on any boss? Being able to remove a player is important for some reasons (afk mooching, being a total douchenozzle, etc.) but your mileage may vary: some people may have connection issues, but resolve them when it's time to really get down; they may have to grab the door. Others truly are douchenozzles, but I find nine times out of ten it's the tank, and he's the one initiating the kick. Tis a tricky tightrope to walk.

They could put rules in place to prevent this from happening. When a chest is on the ground you can't kick someone, etc.

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Originally Posted by Crushbone-Hammerfist

You acknowledge that it's another thread on the same subject. But instead of adding something new to the discussion, you just repeat what everyone else says.

This is why we don't need a vote kick. This guy right here. People with friends can run with their friends. People without friends complain that they can't kick other people without friends.

If you didn't act like you're more important than everyone else, you would have friends to run dungeons with.

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If you're talking about the thread that apparently fixes 'attitude' with points/votes, that's not what I'm asking for.

I do have friends. I don't have enough friends or a 1000 member Free Company to form a party of 8 whenever I want to run an instance. That's the whole purpose of Duty Finder, and it's not working very well. I wonder how many times you've run instances to farm tomestones, you seem to be clueless.

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Originally Posted by MochaLatte

I don't think it will help much because people can still abuse it.

And say you are kicking a more important role such as the tank or healer. Majority of the time people playing these jobs will not queue in progress, which means the dungeon is now over.

You can wait for a replacement, but time will keep ticking until you no longer have enough time to complete your run, and you probably never got that replacement anyway.

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You see, the interesting thing is that these jobs also happen to be the ones who can successfully destroy the run (through going afk/refusing to participate). Replacement happens very fast in popular instances and the chance of that happening is still better than nothing.

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Originally Posted by Balaur

Vote-kicking works so well in WoW, when they enforced a "reason" to vote and people would plug in "'cause" or ":)" and others would STILL kick them. Imagine being the odd man out in a group run and getting vote kicked before the chest gets opened? Imagine this on any boss? Being able to remove a player is important for some reasons (afk mooching, being a total douchenozzle, etc.) but your mileage may vary: some people may have connection issues, but resolve them when it's time to really get down; they may have to grab the door. Others truly are douchenozzles, but I find nine times out of ten it's the tank, and he's the one initiating the kick. Tis a tricky tightrope to walk.

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Yes, there are many different scenarios involving this but there can be counter-measures too. A contribution meter, an afk detection .. People will always find workarounds to be abusive but does that mean SE shouldn't try to discourage them?

Instead of vote kick better would be "vote to call the police". Gm comes and punishes violators. Will cost $$ for square, but it is the only solution that will not hurt innocent players.

I look forward to vote kicking you then OP if I ever see you in a dungeon for suggesting this.

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Originally Posted by Jarinolde

I look forward to vote kicking you then OP if I ever see you in a dungeon for suggesting this.

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If you see me afk for long periods of time without a notice, intentionally slack, grief or lock your progress and prevent you from finishing the instance then by all means, do.

If you suffer from what I mentioned above 10 times, you'll suffer from abusive vote-kicking 1 time.

I don't understand the hate this option gets. Maybe you're doing something you shouldn't.

?? I have found that since I got my level up, I have been getting better groups of players in the dungeons. I also have to take my own actions in to account. The fact of the matter is there are enough people playing this game that you will be able to get people to do it. If not maybe its not them that's the problem....../??

The tank just gone without closing the game, 15-20 mn later, being the only healing class at this level, our conjurer decided to leave the party first, knowing the dps were going to have a penalty plus 45mn of queuing to find an other party.. /bow to him

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Originally Posted by Crushbone-Hammerfist

You acknowledge that it's another thread on the same subject. But instead of adding something new to the discussion, you just repeat what everyone else says.

This is why we don't need a vote kick. This guy right here. People with friends can run with their friends. People without friends complain that they can't kick other people without friends.

If you didn't act like you're more important than everyone else, you would have friends to run dungeons with.

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lol what? That makes less sense than engrish posts..I guess we know at least one person afks during runs

I did cutters cry and this one dude got all the chests, so what there are plenty of ways to get things in the game. you can go back and do them again and again if you want. I think that the maintenance's and world loading problems are the biggest pain in the ass in this game. But all in all its a sick a$$ game and if someone don't like it they don't have to play it. there is always candy crush saga....lol. keep at any part of the game and you will beat it. or maybe you need more practice.

I have heard the arguments where people can abuse this function, but I did not see that in WoW where if I felt it was unfair that they were voting to kick someone I would say no on the pop-up. As long as their is a vote, I really wish they did have this option. I am sick of the people who afk or don't listen to you even when you explain to them a million times what they need to do or what they are doing wrong.