.... so I heard from the grapevine that they are gonna nerf lvling from fate grinding and crafting....
I think thats a pro.. I mean your not gonna have to complain about under gear people que up... and the market being under or over priced.
Nerf soon?
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09-21-2013, 05:27 AMIshtar44Nerf soon?
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09-21-2013, 05:29 AMAhlen
Eh, if they nerfed fate grinding I definitely wouldn't sub. Grinding monsters and occasionally leve's is really not interesting for leveling other characters. The game already has so many flaws that if they screw it up any more, it's gonna break and drop down to SWTOR levels.
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09-21-2013, 05:32 AMSwishytailI hope so. I'm a little too late to inb4 people threaten to quit, but I think this would be fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ishtar44
People are going to come in here and complain even though this isn't even confirmed and there
is nothing stating how much of a nerf. Could be a 5% exp loss which isn't a lot. Could be
50%.
Nerfing FATEs wouldn't bother me at all, personally. -
09-21-2013, 05:34 AMLunarEmerald
Dungeons have bad exp scaling. At level 15 they're good for exp but terrible at level 30+
500 exp per mob (with the 50% armory bonus) doesn't work when you need 200k exp to level up. -
09-21-2013, 05:37 AMSwishytailI do agree with dungeon exp. However, people have actually been doing old school FFXI mob grinding PTsQuote:
Originally Posted by LunarEmerald
killing mobs 5 levels higher. Chaining for insane amounts of exp. There are other ways, people just choose
the lazy path of FATE. I do believe there was actually a post on the forums somewhere about how chaining
mobs actually nets you more exp/hour than FATEs if done right. But you actually have to pay attention
and not just spam AOE, that's the problem. People don't want to do that.
*Inb4 that's how I get seals.
That's understandable, I'm talking about the people FATE spamming for exp purposes only. -
09-21-2013, 05:40 AMjpem
The world isn't really big enough for that to be a good option to be fair, unfortunately. If that really caught on it'd turn into a big messy zerg around a few maps option as well.
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09-21-2013, 05:42 AMBoomerOU
I'd like to see a reduction in fate exp and an increase in dungeon/leve exp
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09-21-2013, 05:42 AMMusashidon
but you can do fates for exp grinding too. there are fates all around that have a kill the boss only bar meaning if you just leave it alone and go after the normal monsters you have a infinite spawn of monsters then when you get close to over just destroy the boss for the fate exp and seals. lazy lawrence has this kind of mechanics course the monsters have very high hp and are prolly not worth killing, but i have seen other ones in just about every map.
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09-21-2013, 06:11 AMFenwick
If they decrease FATE experience, they will need to increase experience from other sources.
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09-21-2013, 06:11 AMKenji1134
If they do significantly nerf fate xp, then they need to boost the xp you get from dungeons.
Also, as others have said, if a group of 8 people chain grinding is better xp than fates, then suppose we take the say 100 people that chase fates in Northern Thanalan, divide them into about 12 groups of 8, and give each group a chunk of zone space where a sufficient number of mobs exists, and respawns at a fast enough rate to make chain grinding worthwhile... we would run out of room.
The zones cannot support 100-200 people, in groups of 8, farming regular mobs, the mob density is too low, as is the respawn rate. So groups would spread out over larger areas, and eventually start overlapping and fighting for spawns... at that point fates are better again.
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09-21-2013, 06:15 AMNZ_Player
ya cant blame fates for everything, there will always be stupid and lazy people
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09-21-2013, 06:18 AMjcw005
What exactly is this "grapevine" of yours? Your pet rock which whispers the future to you?
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09-21-2013, 06:26 AMNictuswolf
Why is everyone so butthurt over FATEs?
Did you get an undergeared player?
I've seen people with full DL and they are worse than lowbies.
I have seen people so bad that I wish I could summon my Chocobo as they would contribute more to the fight.
Also, if the grinding party is better than FATEs....Shouldn't that get nerfed first? As it is "Better"? -
09-21-2013, 06:28 AMEmeraldSerenadeWhat, you don't have a pet rock? Get with the times, man.Quote:
Originally Posted by jcw005
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09-21-2013, 06:30 AMMoheeheeko
Why on earth would they nerf crafting xp?
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09-21-2013, 06:30 AMjbizziYeah, I really wish someone would explain to me how FATEs are hurting their gameplay. Frankly you get to 50 with full GC gear which is better/comparable to AF, how would getting there slower change anything for you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Nictuswolf
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09-21-2013, 06:46 AMMorganna
Everyone needs to stop calling for nerfing everything in the game. This is why WoW is so uneven all the time as well as Rift, GW2 and many others. You start complaining about this or that being too great and this or that being bad and the next thing you know, they are nerfing everything in the game and it never ends. Fate grinding, exp parties, dungeon running and levequests are all optional. When and if someone wants their 5th or 6th job leveled it's going to be hard enough with no quests except class quests, then everyone will be screaming for them to be adjusted again for more exp because it will take a ridiculous amount of time to get a level once past 20 or so. The game has only been out a month and I doubt that anyone that is not 1.0 has more than 2 1/2 to 3 jobs at level 50. When they get to the 5th or 6th job needing leveled then the screams will start again. Just stop!
As far as people in grinding parties, this is how it was done traditionally and it's not for everyone but some people actually like it and enjoy it. I like the idea of given another option to level and if grind parties are the option, then let us have it!