[Papashan's Crew] Selling Titan wins

Hello Sargatanas,

We will get you Titan clear.

Send a tell or moogle mail to Happy Mask to talk about price and time.




We also offer other services such as full relic clear from start to finish and many others. If you can think of it, we can probably do it.
If you cannot reach Happy Mask. Feel free to message one of the officers of the LS.

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Originally Posted by WhiteTerror

Hey folks,

We will get you Titan clear.

Send a tell or moogle mail to Happy Mask to talk about price and time.

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Isn't this against the terms that we agree to when we first install the game?

Why bother paying for a titan win to get your relic. What would a person do then? Can't run coil without a stable and decent FC. If they had a good FC they wouldnt be paying you for a Titan run. Its like shooting yourself in the foot.

But then again the high end gears require you to have gear you cant get yourself to join to begin with lol. Going FULL DL and relic would take a light year using the duty finder..

But sir don't you understand relics have purple pixels. All other information in irrelevant.

but didnt you guys struggle with titan? lol

We just cleared titan for 6-7 ppl without wipes today. our group is solid, so if ppl want a piece of titan's loincloth and finish their relics we can help!

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Originally Posted by Cegiana

Isn't this against the terms that we agree to when we first install the game?

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No, it is not. It also wasn't in Final Fantasy XI, and was listed as a way to make income within the game.

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Originally Posted by danyiboi

but didnt you guys struggle with titan? lol

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I don't know what you're talking about. We've cleared titan for at least 10 people by now.

So if you want that relic, please send us a tell!

rofl you must be kidding me

Updated top post

Good luck with your promotion. Have seen this a lot in WoW. It's cool I guess if people are struggling, or leveling a second class...and yes on the other end, frowned upon. More power to you guys for being able to carry one player!

To all those who frown upon mercenary runs:

When you go to the grocery store to stock up on the food that keeps you alive, do you frown upon the fact that you are spending money on food rather than growing it yourself? Do you frown upon the act of paying for your electricity bill rather than generating your own? Do you frown upon driving a car that you had no part whatsoever in building?

How is this any different?

Some people don't have the time to spend 10 hours a day throwing bodies at titan for a week with bad pugs, or duty finder noobs trying to learn the ropes. Some of these might be crafters and gatherers capable of generating many runs worth of gil in the same amount of time they would otherwise spend learning the mechanics of this fight, let alone finding a Full Party of equally capable and competent players. Why should these players waste countless hours of their time (and money) trying to kill titan when they can pay a group to kill it for them in under 30 minutes?

Such a transaction should not be frowned upon it should be encouraged. The master crafter who spends his days honing his technique may not have the experience to kill titan nor a group of friends willing to carry him through it. However, he may have an excess of gil and if he is willing to peddle his wares in exchange for gil, why should he not be allowed to pay a group of mercenarys to kill a mob for his relic? It is a win/win situation. The raiders who never craft are payed by a crafter for killing a mob he is not capable of, meanwhile these same raiders will likely spend that hard earned gil purchasing goods being sold by this crafter, that they in turn are incapable of crafting.

This is equivalent exchange in every sense of the word. No one is being ripped off. Each person provides either a good or a service in exchange for gil. The crafters provide goods in the form of items and the mercenaries provide a service in the form of a boss mob kill. Everyone walks away from the transaction happy and with a smile on their face. What exactly is wrong with this notion of efficiency? Nothing.

If you still think this is wrong, then I am left to wonder, who are you to judge what others choose to do with their hard earned gil?

Well, I know for one it was illegal to sell points in Arenas in WoW. It could fall under your 'mercenary' category. I am impartial to either way. I used to sell points in WoW Arenas for people who wanted to get ahead or were making new characters but didn't want to grind out the gear. It's considered throwing matches and whatnot and exchanging wins.

As far as selling spots, we sold gear to people but required a deposit up front. I assume that's the same thing you do. I don't plan to be doing this anytime soon as I think it ruins the experience personally, but there is not enough GIL circulating right now through NPC's and other things to really justify taking money out of the economy as it currently is not a really effective way to generate revenue as it is just recirculating and changing hands, eventually going away (into repairs).

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Originally Posted by Gray_Spy

As far as selling spots, we sold gear to people but required a deposit up front. I assume that's the same thing you do.

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In over 50 mercenary runs, Papashan's Crew has NEVER taken a deposit upfront. We run by a code of honor, despite what others may think or say. We never take payment before the kill, and have never ripped anyone on. We give discounts if you don't want the item, and in such a scenario you are still allowed to greed the titan weapon alongside the rest of us.

Updated top post.

I'm all for merc runs I don't have money to go out and buy a decent machine so there's no way I can beat titan I get 4-8 fps in instances so my relic weapon is forever out of reach until I can clear titan and I can't dodge landslide ever because of lag but I can make Gil off botantist and buy the clear. Which I will be doing soon l.

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Originally Posted by Lirrenure

I'm all for merc runs I don't have money to go out and buy a decent machine so there's no way I can beat titan I get 4-8 fps in instances so my relic weapon is forever out of reach until I can clear titan and I can't dodge landslide ever because of lag but I can make Gil off botantist and buy the clear. Which I will be doing soon l.

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If anyone really get 4-8 fps in instances, everything is out of reach forever.

Anyways, since this has kinda opened for discussion, I have to say something.

I don't frown upon mercenary runs. In fact, as someone who's stuck on Titan for 3 weeks now (a good deal of my FC only recently reached Titan, and I just don't seem to luck it out on DF or shout) , I completely see why someone would resort to this. But, at the same time, I also worry about what these people will do after Titan.

I mean, if you can't beat him, what hope do you have to run Coil? If the problem is your skill, well, your skill will be the same on Coil, so you're getting stuck again on the next endgame progression dungeon. If the problem is lack of a group to run with, again, you're getting stuck on Coil because it pretty much requires a good group to run with. If you have lag or PC performance issues, these will surely keep happening on Coil. Do you want more Relic Weapons? You will have to pay again for the win because you didn't learn now.

Please, don't take this as me trying to ruin your business, and again, if anyone wants to pay for their wins, go ahead and do with. It's your gil, your playtime and you're not breaking any rules, despite what anyone might say.

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Originally Posted by Lirrenure

I'm all for merc runs I don't have money to go out and buy a decent machine so there's no way I can beat titan I get 4-8 fps in instances so my relic weapon is forever out of reach until I can clear titan and I can't dodge landslide ever because of lag but I can make Gil off botantist and buy the clear. Which I will be doing soon l.

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Message me in-game. We might be able to work out a discount. I feel for you.

It's always the Lalafells.

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Originally Posted by kysulli

It's always the Lalafells. Master Race

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Fixed it for you

Winning! (bump OP)

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Originally Posted by AdvancedWind

But, at the same time, I also worry about what these people will do after Titan.

I mean, if you can't beat him, what hope do you have to run Coil? If the problem is your skill, well, your skill will be the same on Coil, so you're getting stuck again on the next endgame progression dungeon.

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it could be the partys not the person remember that, garuda for instance first time there i was one of the only people not to die yet everyone else did, 4 partys of useless healers and tanks later finally got a run complete, so consider who people are going with not the persons skill

also look at ifrit HM easy fight if youve seen it before and know the patterns but you still get the useless people again its not always the persons skill its the party they go with

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Originally Posted by Vizarie

it could be the partys not the person remember that, garuda for instance first time there i was one of the only people not to die yet everyone else did, 4 partys of useless healers and tanks later finally got a run complete, so consider who people are going with not the persons skill

also look at ifrit HM easy fight if youve seen it before and know the patterns but you still get the useless people again its not always the persons skill its the party they go with

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This. We've had customers that survived throughout the entire fight. They are skilled.

...and then there are those that are dead the whole time. Buuut, that's what you're paying US for. =p

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Originally Posted by Cegiana

Isn't this against the terms that we agree to when we first install the game?

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If they were selling it for Real World currency yes, I assume however, they want gil. Which is perfectly legal.

This is half tempting for me, not so much for the weapon itself, but after 40-something runs in WP, that place still won't drop my shield. Almost every piece of DL I'm wearing atm is from tomes acquired from repeated WP runs, which only gives 50 tomes. Did AK once. I don't want to tank Garuda and Titan with a Scorpion Shield, nor do I want to blow 1.5m on a HQ Scutum which I'll swap out after a couple bosses. I suppose I have some pondering (and maybe gil farming) to do!

Am I the only one who thinks it's silly to give such a huge loot table to a boss that only drops one item at a time? :|

We can get you your relic for MUCH less than the cost of a HQ scutum, plus it comes with a sword!

Hi,

i would contact Happy ingame but he isnt online, when i was on. So i ask can someone contact me later, or i will try it again later.

Ty Valis Tigerheart

Feel free to contact me if you see me online in game.

Ty for the answer, i will contact you tomorrow after work, when im online!

Do you have a price list?

We don't list the prices here but if you contact us in-game, we can give you prices.

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Originally Posted by Eliyn

We just cleared titan for 6-7 ppl without wipes today. our group is solid, so if ppl want a piece of titan's loincloth and finish their relics we can help!

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I'd love to take you up on that offer. If you ever go again, i'll be the last man standing :>

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Originally Posted by Piricho

I'd love to take you up on that offer. If you ever go again, i'll be the last man standing :>

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nvm, thought you were helping, not selling. My bad :D

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Originally Posted by Piricho

nvm, thought you were helping, not selling. My bad :D

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Essentially, we are selling help.

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Originally Posted by Piricho

nvm, thought you were helping, not selling. My bad :D

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sorry for the confusion :(

Updated top post with officer contact.

Update:

Assisted in 100+ relics.
Still offering assistance to those that need the clear.

Will Kill for Gil

*Update, still doing runs*