Hacking teleporting gatherers

How are people teleporting from node to node while in stealth mode? Most of them I see are in level 1-10 gear but much higher in level.

Is this an intended way to work? Or is this hacking?

When they teleport onto a node they fall from the sky it looks like. They won't respond to tells either.

3rd Party software, google can find it in around 0.13 seconds,so converted to squeenix time that would be around 6 months for a fix.

Fix? Fix what?

What can SE do about a 3rd software?

Joke aside, SE didn't even have an in-game MOD to patrol around. If each server had one, it would be easy for the "cheat" ticket to actually work.

I have lost count how many of those I've reported.

What I find even more sad is that I see more and more regular players are now doing it on my server with their guild name out in full view and everything because Squeenix won't do a damn thing about it and they know it.

they will start working on finding the bots im sure and i hope EVERY single 1 who used it gets a lifetime ban = =

reported several of these fuckers yesterday.

Its really causing me to lose faith in this game. If blatent hacking is permitted and allowed to continue and ruin the economy...i have no reason left to wanna play.

I love playing the crafter/gatherer role. and there is no way i can compete with 24/7 bots.
After i got home last night...i began mining....7 different teleport hackers in ONE ZONE!

Reported all of them. marked them so i could see em, and they continued for about an hour before it pissed me off to the point i just gave up. Considered going out and getting GTA5 instead.

I know it doesn't stop me from mining my nodes...but seeing them run circles around me, getting every node 10x faster then me....without any effort...completely automated...was just very discouraging.

I'm watching these teleporting gatherers as i type this. With company names out, they really don't give 2 cents if they're reported or not. I don't know how S-E has handled their past actions with cheaters but if it takes months just like with certain company i know, these botters aren't going anywhere anytime soon.

From experience, SE lets things "go" for a few months. They write down all the names of the accounts that are involved in it and double check as much as they can. This will usually take a few months. And then bam, all the investigated accounts will get hit with the permaban hammer. So for the people that are cheating now, they're just wasting their money. Because for the ones that were reported, it might already be too late and their account name is already on the "to be banned" list.

Only thing we can do is report them. Hope they all get banned.

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Originally Posted by Zareth

From experience, SE lets things "go" for a few months. They write down all the names of the accounts that are involved in it and double check as much as they can. This will usually take a few months

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After a few months, the damage has already happened. The botters don't give a damn if their accounts are banned since they already have had months worth of time to grab cash from buyers.

I'm not talking about individual botters, they get what they deserve but the gil/shard/whatever sellers will be back the next day setting up their bots again. They get reported again and S-E takes action after a few months. This get's repeated over and over. Mass banning does nothing against rmt botters.

It takes less than a few months to ruin the economy, especially at the speed bots go. In a couple months we'll already be at the point where stuff like Mythril Ore goes for 1 gil and be available in astronomical quantities. On my server right now 2 retainers have 40 stacks up, same price, probably a bot.

There will always be bots, the response needs to be quick, pilling up names then banning them once after 6 months will do absolutely nothing; it'll be like gil sellers on chat, they'll hack/buy a new account and bot away some more for an other 6 months.

I hope there is a way to target a specific FF14 copy, and for them to make it impossible to use that copy for further gaming. Else, banning accounts isn't gonna fix anything if they can still the same client over and over.

The best we can do is report them. Remember, SE does have to do a full investigation of some sorts before any action will take place. Action will probably not happen immediately, but if the player is truly botting/hacking, they will get banned so long as there is a 'bread crumbs' so to speak - and reports like ours are the first steps.

Something like this tends to require the user to be caught in the act and any logging on their end may or may not allow them to truly determine said player was hacking.

They are already banning people, that is why after every maintenance, they release character creation on locked servers. Once they ban an account it opens slots for new players, watch next time they do a maintenance, right after they will open creation for a short time.

I wonder if they added "level checkpoint" quests - like once you reached lvl 30 etc you'd have to do some cool DoL quests to unlock further levels - if this would stop the bots from endlessly leveling and gathering.

It will catch up with them in time.

This is why I miss the old days of Everquest... When they had players with limited powers who could go around in the world and answer to these sorts of reports banning the users in question and submitting the necessary evidence incase a followup was needed. I'm sure there are countless players around who would happily shoulder this sort of duty just to be able to allow others to have use of shout/yell in towns without being flooded by spam.

You can spend all the time you want coding things in the game to foil botters, and they'll just make better bots. But once you start having some visible members of staff around removing these users as they appear, those that would use them quickly lose interest.

Bots are a good thing in this game. I can get large quantities of shards and other crafting mats for quite resonable price from AH. Downside is the account theft and gold selling spam business around it. But that has more to do with ppl not managing their passwords properly then SE:s fault.

Another reason why bots do not harm in this game is that DoH/DoL are completly separate game from DoW/DoM there is practially 0 interaction between them (other then token farm for 50+ materials.) So the only economy in this game is based around ppl leveling up crafting jobs and needing mats for it so thats not really even a real "economy" and it deserves to die in its current state.

But dont get me wrong i would ban every cheater from the game if there was a magic button for it. But its just not going to happen in modern mmo's and the companies know that. Thats why they dont even try to waste loads of salary expenses for GMs try to ban bots/hackers. Even if they get banned they will be back in 5mins with new or stolen accounts. But ofc they will still ban few ppl here and now for show. Otherwise it would be huge shitstorm when masses would realize they dont even try nor waste resourses for that stuff.

Sadly I feel it's as Angu has stated. I have over 50 names on my blacklist. Even before my free month has finished, I only saw 3 names on my list be deleted. Not a very good track record and only one person went on that blacklist is an actual player who was being an idiot.

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Originally Posted by zproximo

How are people teleporting from node to node while in stealth mode? Most of them I see are in level 1-10 gear but much higher in level.

Is this an intended way to work? Or is this hacking?

When they teleport onto a node they fall from the sky it looks like. They won't respond to tells either.

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This is hacking and they are using 3rd party software to do it. They will not respond to tells because most of them are probably Chinese/Japanese and do not understand English, OR, they know what they are doing is wrong so they avoid talking to anyone to avoid being questioned.

Since I have played other games where gold farmers/hackers persisted, I suspect if you say "Ni Hao" to them, they MIGHT reply :)

Please fix this botting issue.. I hate trying to mine and seeing all of these guys just teleporting back and forth.. It's so discouraging..:mad:

SE can use their logs to map the flow of goods and gil from player to player.

When they find out who they all are, they can come down in one fell swoop and take out a few thousand with perma bans. As they go through it all, they need to ID the payment accounts as well to insure they ban the source of payment.

All in all, it cant stop all of it forever, but they can make it much much more costly for anyone running a business selling gold to NEWB's.

I don't understand why they don't have people playing the game and looking for these bots. They are incredibly obvious and I could have banned at least 50 by now. If nothing's being done about the obvious gil spammers though I doubt these bots will be dealt with.

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Originally Posted by storied_hero

I don't understand why they don't have people playing the game and looking for these bots. They are incredibly obvious and I could have banned at least 50 by now. If nothing's being done about the obvious gil spammers though I doubt these bots will be dealt with.

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They do see the bots. They don't ban them because then they lose the money trail that leads them back to the accounts that are being used to hold/transfer the gil.

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Originally Posted by saucyshortcake

They do see the bots. They don't ban them because then they lose the money trail that leads them back to the accounts that are being used to hold/transfer the gil.

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I can understand that I guess but half of the bots I see are regular players in known free companies.

Wow.

I reported this AM, and they took action this PM.

SE might just pull it off!

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Originally Posted by Yoseph

Wow.

I reported this AM, and they took action this PM.

SE might just pull it off!

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Bots I've reported are still there, and have been there for several days. It's pretty bad when you can walk outside a town an recognize a bot's name more quickly as you ride past than someone in your own FC.

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Originally Posted by FF2GO

This is hacking and they are using 3rd party software to do it. They will not respond to tells because most of them are probably Chinese/Japanese and do not understand English, OR, they know what they are doing is wrong so they avoid talking to anyone to avoid being questioned.

Since I have played other games where gold farmers/hackers persisted, I suspect if you say "Ni Hao" to them, they MIGHT reply :)

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This bugs me so much. Sure a lot of the RMT are Chinese but most of us (Japanese) don't like any 3rd party. From playing 11 for 8 years and playing with Japanese and English speakers alike. More English speakers use hacks then Japanese.

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Originally Posted by Maku

This bugs me so much. Sure a lot of the RMT are Chinese but most of us (Japanese) don't like any 3rd party. From playing 11 for 8 years and playing with Japanese and English speakers alike. More English speakers use hacks then Japanese.

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A lot of folks in NA lump Asian cultures together. I've personally never heard of JP RMT (other than maybe translators). Such is life. I will say, though, on my FFXI server (carbuncle) there was a JP programmer that would make his own hacks to get claim on HNMs. That's a different class of hacking from botting/RMT though.