To the Amazing PUG..

I finally got access to The Navel (Hard) this evening. After, I watched videos; I felt I was ready to give it a try. The rotations seemed easy enough. However, I was nowhere near ready. I kept dying due to mistakes in timing and positioning. We wiped 5 times and then someone in the party said must be my 1st time (I was the only one dying). I spoke up and said it was.

Usually this is when people start leaving or I get yelled at for being a noob and GTFO. In fact this kind of e-hate happened a few days ago when I first tried to PUG Bowls of Embers (Hard), which made me not play for a few days.

Anyhow, to my surprise the other healer asked to be marked so I could follow her movements for the next round. Furthermore, someone else added "we all got to learn and start somewhere."

Unfortunately, I died and we wiped. Another party member then suggested we go on vent or set up a team speak. We wiped. Then another member started to type in the pattern because I couldn't get on vent.

So, in the end we wiped a few more and did not finish the duty. I expressed my gratitude and figured everyone would leave. Surprisingly the main tank said it was a bad combo party, and wasn't pointing the finger at me. Moreover some members stayed longer and gave me pointers on gearing up and upping my HP before trying Titan Hard again and emoted good lucks/cheers.

WOW! So refreshing! There ARE people playing in this game that DO want to help you; improve as a player and help the community grow positively.

I have NEVER gotten this level of kindness and support from a random pick up group.

BIG thank you and shout out to my PUG. You guys made my night!

That's fantastic. It's nice to hear some more positive experiences with the community. :)

This makes my heart melt. Maybe there is still some hope for the FF community!

Well this thread actually made my hope for DF increase a bit. I had this same issue on my WHM in Ifrit HM, never been before. My 1st few runs went swell, just my last 2 runs were just....well filled with hate :/. BUT im glad for one that these people actually helped you and offered pointers and tips! Good luck!

That's awesome.

Amazing that of all the instances in this game, the nice attitude was found in Titan .. killer of dreams, lol.

Always good to hear a nice story for once :)

Thanks to this thread and my past several DF experiences (even though my FC does runs all the time, I still queue up with DF for dungeons/primals I've got down pat because why the hell not), I would be fully supportive of a thread where we just sing praises to people we get matched up with in DF so it can be made known that there IS goodness to be found.

it can be very soul destroying to finally go in this one Hard Dungeon (generalization) and just fail and get bitched at. My first run in AK i did many mistakes and everyone just told me what to do and not panic. Now just keep this attitude when you are geared and have a relic's to other new players :p.

Yeah my first Titan experience was the exact opposite of yours. Was my first time but I've watched my roommate do it. Died ONE time cause my connection stalled, everyone raged at me to learn to evade and they all left after calling me every insult in the book.

My first AK experience was like that. Did well up until the last boss, I could not get the positioning right. Everyone stayed patient and helped me through it with pointers. For me, it kind of restored some faith in the community.

I have 2 Dl pieces too go then I will attempt it and I will try with a PUG also because they actually dont mind teaching you
and helping you along versus the spammers that are asking for elite groups and I find it more enjoyable I have had so many
GREAT PUG groups especially when we did Hydra it took us like 5 times but man we did great. Good thread OP and grats to you guys

My god, I was expecting another horror story and public shaming.

Thanks for bringing the good word.

Why do people even queue up for Titan HM. It is not puggable. You should not be using 2 tanks for this fight. It is great to just see how the fight will works but you are not going to beat it.

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Originally Posted by Ruprect

Why do people even queue up for Titan HM. It is not puggable. You should not be using 2 tanks for this fight. It is great to just see how the fight will works but you are not going to beat it.

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2 of my friend got titan killed in DF.. it's doable lol just really really really Miracle.

Had a similar experience on Excalibur. Joined a late night PUG for Hydra. Total PUG group: none of us knew eachother in the slightest. We 1-shot hydra, which isn't saying much because its not that hard of a fight. Just lots of conal AoE and "red circles of GTFO".

We decided that we should just go ahead and take on ifrit. I knew the fight well, but I was in the minority. Most of us had no idea what to expect.

Through patience, cooperation and a good explanation of mechanics, we 2-shot ifrit.

In my experience playing MMO's, theres two kinds of people you find in pug groups: Patient people who give strangers the benefit of the doubt, and impatient people who project their own issues onto others. I hope we continue to run into the former and not the latter.

Thanks for sharing your experience, OP. It makes me feel my good feelings :)

Thank you all for sharing your good experience stories. It makes me really happy to read them all! It strengthens my belief in the other players out there.

That first time in Ifrit (Hard) I took the e-hate hard because my core values are; I give people the benefit of the doubt (i.e. they must be angry for one reason or another) and I like everyone to be in good spirit (i.e. just saying hi and explaining the dungeon and being polite/patient to first timers). This is why I play a healer, because I ENJOY keeping the party alive and making everyone happy.

On a side note I got my Ifrit Cane!! It was via PUG and there were first timers in there. We explained the situation to them and all went well, no one KOed.

Anyhow, it brings me great joy to see that there is HOPE for the FFXIV community.

Keep sharing these awesome stories, to uplift those that have run into bad ones!

"Through patience, cooperation and a good explanation of mechanics" <--- really good sum up!

This sounds like the group I first did HM Garuda with. Myself as healer and a tank friend both zoned in and admitted it was our first time, but that we'd watched videos. They explained the fight again to us and the healer marked himself and told me to just stick with him. We didn't wipe, but I suppose Garuda is a lot easier than Titan.

The other week I did AK for the first time as DPS (second time total), and we brought in another friend on his first time to be healer. We kept wiping due to some silly mistakes (namely, the tank had forgotten an important thing to explain about the safe spot in the first boss fight, and I forgot it myself since I'd only done it once myself). The BLM pug in our group was very patient, we apologised for our mistakes and that we were mostly inexperienced, he even said he hopes that if he's patient and teaches, then the people he teaches will do the same for another newbie later on.

So yeah, there are nice people out there in the sea of duty finder, and it's always great to meet them :)

Last night playing on a pug against garuda, I told them I was new but I had watched the videos several times. They agreed to do it, we didn't finish the duty but they stayed during the whole time. Nobody raged and nobody was rude to anyone. I'm going to get 3 pieces of darklight armor then try again.

I have had only one bad experience with the duty finder and I let him know he was a scumbag. I threatened to afk inside the dungeon if he didn't shutup and it worked.