To Bards using parsers

What average DPS are you guys getting so far? I'm only averaging about 180-200 DPS although my weapon is still well...not relic :( Don't know how accurate this is but I'll assume the latest update is accurate enough

Does it get better with relic weapon? Like 230-250 DPS maybe?

What DPS are you great bards getting and what should be expected of me when I attain a relic weapon?

Depends on the fight, pt setup, etc. What were you testing it on?

on dummies i supose.

On dummy, with ifrit weapon, almost full DL :
DPS over 120 seconds : 200 dps
DPS during burst : 270~ dps

On titan , with crit food : 170 dps.

However do not forget to consider that right now crits damage from DoTs are not taken into account.
My critical being at 32% average on Titan, theoretically my dps would be 200 dps.
I didn't save information on dummy but you can safely add 30 to 40 dps

Wow that's pretty low then. Didn't know the disparity between summoners and bards were that big, 250-300 dps vs 200 dps. Hmm..

Summoner on dummy with equivalent gear is only 180-200 dps (couting pet)

Titan is the best fight for DPS data comparable to real events (e.g. Coil) in my opinion as it tests your ability to maintain DPS levels and your rotation while moving. The average PUG DPS is in the 100-120 DPS range. I have never PUG'd with a DPS over 170. I average 145-165 on Titan and I've parsed 30+ fights. Relic+1 competent FC players are 180-200+. My gear is not terrible, but not amazing; Ifrit's Bow, DL head / body / waist, Toxotes hands / feet / legs, and a mix of Toxotes and HQ crafted accessories.

What I find the most interesting is the damage taken aspect of FFXIVAPP's parser. It does not seem to pick up Tumult damage (at least it doesn't for me), so I always check after fights to see who is actually a competent player. I pride myself more on taking a 0 in the damage taken tab than another 10 DPS in the damage for tab.

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Originally Posted by Thotor

Summoner on dummy with equivalent gear is only 180-200 dps (couting pet)

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Oh. I've always heard they do 250-300 even with just the Ifrit book. But I suppose 180-200 is pretty good still since they can DPS on the move as well.

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Originally Posted by Wulfgang

Titan is the best fight for DPS data comparable to real events (e.g. Coil) in my opinion as it tests your ability to maintain DPS levels and your rotation while moving. The average PUG DPS is in the 100-120 DPS range. I have never PUG'd with a DPS over 170. I average 145-165 on Titan and I've parsed 30+ fights. Relic+1 competent FC players are 180-200+. My gear is not terrible, but not amazing; Ifrit's Bow, DL head / body / waist, Toxotes hands / feet / legs, and a mix of Toxotes and HQ crafted accessories.

What I find the most interesting is the damage taken aspect of FFXIVAPP's parser. It does not seem to pick up Tumult damage (at least it doesn't for me), so I always check after fights to see who is actually a competent player. I pride myself more on taking a 0 in the damage taken tab than another 10 DPS in the damage for tab.

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Wow you PUG titan O_O My server can't even do titan consistently lol...

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Originally Posted by Wulfgang

What I find the most interesting is the damage taken aspect of FFXIVAPP's parser. It does not seem to pick up Tumult damage (at least it doesn't for me), so I always check after fights to see who is actually a competent player. I pride myself more on taking a 0 in the damage taken tab than another 10 DPS in the damage for tab.

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There is many aoe from encounter that are not displayed in parser.
Even you take damage from Landslide or the other ground aoe, it is not displayed (at least for yourself). I always have 0 dmg taken for some reason.

Gear is very important. Just 2 part of DL is a huge increase.

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Originally Posted by savant07

Wow you PUG titan O_O My server can't even do titan consistently lol...

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Yep, and our PUGs are no better. Trying to avoid bothering the FC as they're generally locked up in Coil when I get home from work late. DPS are the bane of Titan; I really wish more people would parse themselves and see just how bad they are sinking the team.

I did 200-210 on the dummy before I got my relic ( full DL / toxotes ring / garuda weapon ). Haven't tried to parse with the relic as I only got it last night.

Anyway, don't put too much trust in the parser, something seems broken, especially for summoners. I've parsed AK runs while paired with a dragoon ( relic / full DL ) and a summoner ( ifrit / full of AK greenies ) . ffxiv-app showed the summoner @ ~300 dps and the dragoon @ ~240 . The kills however were *MUCH* faster with the dragoon. I parsed the same run with Logrep 2.0 and it showed the summoner @ 120 dps, which was closer to what it felt like in the run.

Yeah that's because Summoner in FFXIV-app absorb DoT damage from other members. So when running with a bard, it is bound to be broken.

With relic+1, my dps on dummy is now at 230+ (240 with crit food)