Duty Finder Que Times

I was wondering if someone could explain the situation behind the Duty Finder. I want to understand why it is taking 30-40 minute ques just to get into one dungeon. I honestly do not think it just simply due to a lack of tanks and/or healers in the server.

Whats goin on?

Many players seem to be running FC groups and thus not PUGging, coupled with the fact that tanks and healers are as usual in short supply. Also, there's a lot of /shouting going on forming groups outside the DF, not least because those coming from FFXI always did it that way because FFXI didn't have a useful grouping tool: and no, to the FFXI 'vets', the flagging system wasn't usable by and large for non-XP party formation.

It is just lack of tanks and healers, I'm sorry to say that. It's a fact and happens with almost every trinity MMO out there.

This is specially true for dungeons before level 30, since there's only one healing class until people can unlock scholar.

If you doubt me, change to a tank class and enjoy the insta queues.

a DPS alone will take forever to find a party
If you are a DPS, always try to grab a healer or tank from FC or LS with you so you can move to the front of the queue

I do not know the underlying architecture of the instance servers, but it could be one of two setups. 1. each instance has its own server, or 2 each server can spawn a copy of any instance, but each instance has a capped number that can be used at one given time (to keep it from having one instance taking over). In either setup there is a maximum number of any single instance that can be held simultaneously.

This results in a wait at the reserving instance portion of the duty finder queue (find party > starts reserving an instance), currently this is where most of the time in the queue is spent. What is resulting in the HUGE queue times currently is that after the instance is reserved for your party (call it 20min wait) if someone does not accept you step back to the find party part (front of line) and quickly get a new member and get put back in line for the reserving instance (back of this 20min line), and this may repeat multiple times.

What needs to be adjusted is that the parties are able to fill in the player that is lost without needing to re-enter the reserving instance queue and thing will become manageable and at least reasonable until they are able to adjust the underlying architecture to adjust for the high demands of some instances

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Originally Posted by yuixjfa

I was wondering if someone could explain the situation behind the Duty Finder. I want to understand why it is taking 30-40 minute ques just to get into one dungeon. I honestly do not think it just simply due to a lack of tanks and/or healers in the server.

Whats goin on?

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It's because you're queuing as a DPS. the line for DPS is a mile long.

Queue as healer or tank and you'll get a group faster. Simple as that. You're doing yourself and everyone else a favor.

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

It's because you're queuing as a DPS. the line for DPS is a mile long.

Queue as healer or tank and you'll get a group faster. Simple as that. You're doing yourself and everyone else a favor.

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It can take 30 minutes+ to get into an instance with a pre-made party on some server groups - stop using the "YOU'RE A DPS!" excuse already, that isn't the reason by large.

Even queuing as a healer it still takes quite awhile at times because again, based on the server grouping, certain ones are just so full or no one is doing it (lower end ones.)

Also queue up with the other languages selected to shorten it. I'm a tank and was having 15min Garuda waits till I used that option

It took me 75 minutes to get on Toto-Rak earlier today...

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Originally Posted by yuixjfa

I honestly do not think it just simply due to a lack of tanks and/or healers in the server.

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It is. I'm a tank and I have never been in the queue longer than 5 minutes. Most of the time for me it's less than 1 minute and often instant.

Edit: I almost always take the DDs in my FC through their dungeons so they don't need to wait long. If a lot of other tanks do the same it means longer queue times for DDs queuing without a tank or healer.

Some are correct, I tried DF as a DPS and it took me more than 20 minutes so then I decided to switch to a healer then I got in instantly. Mostly, they are waiting for either a tank or a healer(happen often) said in the DF searching client.

I have pre-made group but still took 20-60min 'reserving instance' depending on the day/time so the real issue is not just lack of tank/heal.

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Originally Posted by Tupsi

It can take 30 minutes+ to get into an instance with a pre-made party on some server groups - stop using the "YOU'RE A DPS!" excuse already, that isn't the reason by large.

Even queuing as a healer it still takes quite awhile at times because again, based on the server grouping, certain ones are just so full or no one is doing it (lower end ones.)

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When was this. I have never had a pre-made party ever wait more than near instant. Even when we go in with 1 tank 1 healer and 1 DD already set it never takes more than 5 minutes.

To top that off I always go in as a healer, and my wait is usually very short if at all. I have tried tank once or twice (not to good at it and don't plan to do it again due to the fact that noone works with a tank who wants to be better at dungeons, and just harass the hell out of a tank who is not perfect).

I know a lot of people also don't like healing due to the fact that when a party fails they will jump all over the healer (although that happens rarely if at all in my experience).

There is also the fact that they have added another duty finder server and split the pool. The duty finder initially drew from all servers (causing lots of complaints) and now draws from a pool with less servers. If you happen to be in a pool with more of the new servers, your times will probably be longer as well. I am on Coeurl and usually wait 20 minutes as a DPS, but still wait 10 minutes as a healer for specific duties. Before they added this third duty finder server it was usually 1 minute as a healer.

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Originally Posted by Myric

Also queue up with the other languages selected to shorten it. I'm a tank and was having 15min Garuda waits till I used that option

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Thanks for the tip!

I gave up on being a DPS for random DF searching. Better to gather people on your specific server or asks your friends/LS/FC members to help you.

I have no issue when i go to use Duty Finder but i run as a tank so i think thats why i think DPS probably have the hardest time out of anyone to go into duty finder and may want to invite a friend who is either a tank or a healer to help alleviate the stress of waiting