[Suggestion] Good Primals

My Idea stems from many summons, etc. from past Final Fantasy's that rarely get any spotlight. Most of these are good summons, etc. however in this game they are Primals.

My idea would be basically, that there are good primals in the world of Eorzea. They could either be ancient protectors of past cities, or have unique situation and connection with the gods of Eorzea.

One such Primal could be Alexander from FF9. Which was summoned to protect Alexandria and fought off Bahamut. These battles could range to massive fights, where you fight with the Good Primal to protect it against hoards of Beastmen, including that beast tribes "Hero", and their primal. Could consist of even an alliance of 2 parties big.

The Lore again, could be that they are direct protectors of the Gods themselves, which would fit perfectly with Alexander, especially with how big he usually is shown to be.

It could even be focused on an expansion where the Beastmen hoards come together, as a full onslaught war against the other inhabitants of Eorzea.

Just my idea behind what could possibly be an awesome expansion to FFXIV:ARR with alot of lore, extra content, and to pull in Summons from past FF's that are rarely seen like from FF9, but with a twist.

Edit: Re touched up my post as some of it wasn't explained properly.

^This. Awesome.

Ramuh could arguably be classified as that

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Originally Posted by Holyhunter

Ramuh could arguably be classified as that

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He could, and technically is since he's the primal of a good beastman tribe.

Ramuh doesn't give the Sylphs a choice in the matter with becoming tempered. If a Sylph encounters him he hijacks their mind, changes who they are on a fundamental level. That by my perception is among the most evil acts someone can perform, equal to murder.

One word: Atomos

(Seriously depicted as a giant mouth on most occasions)

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Originally Posted by HecatesLover

Ramuh doesn't give the Sylphs a choice in the matter with becoming tempered. If a Sylph encounters him he hijacks their mind, changes who they are on a fundamental level. That by my perception is among the most evil acts someone can perform, equal to murder.

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I stand corrected

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Originally Posted by HecatesLover

Ramuh doesn't give the Sylphs a choice in the matter with becoming tempered. If a Sylph encounters him he hijacks their mind, changes who they are on a fundamental level. That by my perception is among the most evil acts someone can perform, equal to murder.

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yes and no ALL primals do that by their very nature Ramuh IS certainly the least "evil" of all the known primals however he just wants to protect his bit of the woods and him and his tempered don't care about anyone else and will merrily ignore you. (as for FORCING the sylphs to follow him THEY ALL Follow him by choice even non tempered ones still revere lord ramuh the 2 groups just differ in HOW the reverehim(tempered are fanatical and want to bring the free ones back into the fold while the free ones want to FREE the tempered onesso they aren't so.. zealous)

Any other comments?

What about Carbuncle?

What about the 12?

From what I've witnessed:

Ramuh, the Lord of Levin, isn't exactly "good" per se, he's just not aggressive. He and his followers won't, say, invade Gridania and such to gain followers. This is because Ramuh is associated with "reconciliation" - that is, he's the prime manifest of Slyphic traditions and the fact that most motherland Sylphs fear being tainted by those on the outside. Thus, Ramuh is in effect trying to bring the non-tempered Sylphs back to the Sylphlands with the premise that they resign themselves to accept that they are who they are.

I'd wager a guess that this is exactly how Leviathan acts too - to a different degree. Whereas the Lord of Levin prefers that one accept their origins, the Lord of Whorls prefers to protect the future of the Sahagin, and safeguard their home from Limsa's fishermen (although to be fair, the Lord of Crags struck back not out of hate, but out of the repercussions brought by the Lominsans who encroached on their lands).

Basically, of the Primals that have a tribe of worship, Garuda and Ifrit seem to be by far the most aggressive (not sure about Shiva, as we haven't seen her tribe to warrant any speculation).

Also, for those curious, Bahamut is worshipped by the Dravanians (what the game calls the Dragonkin), and the Gigas were revealed in Mor Dhona to have a degree of sentience capable of worshipping something (my belief is that their deity lies on the Crystal Tower, since that was their "holy place").

But yeah, I'm thinking the next aspected Primal'll be Ramuh - since his model's in-game already.

I'm kinda disappointed that the summoner is just a WoW warlock.

I expected BIG summons, not small little pets. It should have been more like the summoner class in Tactics.

All this is great.. but totally off subject.... This is about new forms of Primals, GOOD primals, which could be reborn (FFXIV REBORN), as ancient protectors of cities, area's, or gods themselves. Whatever the case could be. They would act differently than beastkin primals.

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Originally Posted by MistressAthena

All this is great.. but totally off subject.... This is about new forms of Primals, GOOD primals, which could be reborn (FFXIV REBORN), as ancient protectors of cities, area's, or gods themselves. Whatever the case could be. They would act differently than beastkin primals.

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I just feel like this would throw the lore off. All primals need a group to gather sustenance for them to exist. That in itself kind of means there has to be a group taking from others and its kind of hard to put a good natured twist to that.

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Originally Posted by Ragingfungus

I just feel like this would throw the lore off. All primals need a group to gather sustenance for them to exist. That in itself kind of means there has to be a group taking from others and its kind of hard to put a good natured twist to that.

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That's where the change in their particular lore is. Heck, SE could call them something else entirely, and add a whole new meaning/reason for their existence, or them coming to being.

Alexander please. Defeat will grant a boost to Holy!