Tonberry King

My group is having a lot of trouble with this guy. Is he just overly hard? we have tried having the tank kite him and all the adds (gets sniped) we have had blm kite him while nuking and other blm nuking, we have straight tanked him and ignored adds, and we have straight tanked him and had a bard kill 3 adds each between rancors.


We were finally able to beat him once with straight tanking him and having brd take down 3 adds at a time. then when the blue guys popped hitting War limit break and DPS as fast as humanly possible. but still the war was dead right away and then the blm kited until we managed to drop him, it was really really close.

So I was just hoping I could get some advice from you guys for each member of the group, just things they might be doing wrong or need to do differently. We got the flan down like it was no big deal but really have no idea what we are doing wrong here, seems like there is just no way anyone could keep up with the kind of dmg the war is taking threw the fight.

Party set up is WHM, WAR, BLM, and last slot can be BLM DRG or BRD. we had originally gone whm war blm blm to make the flan easy but ended up swaping one for a bard to take out the ton adds.

Also is AK easier than this place? we are not threw the main story yet so right now we are thinking of just pushing all the way threw to AK to have an easier time at seals.

OH! Gear we are all in a mix of mostly AF, GC or Primal weapons, some wanderers drop. 1-2 pieces per person per job, and 1 piece of DL each. HQ crafted rings and such.


Edit: If anyone has specific pieces of advice for any roll in this fight. like rotation, what you looked for, healing order those bits of advice would be amazing. it deffinatly seems to be an issue the whm or war is having so any info on how to do this encounter AS those jobs would be amazing. I know your all saying it's easy, and we are all frustrated cuz we know it should be so we just want to find out what we are doing wrong and fix it.

strat:

-tank tanks him in the middle inner circle
-ranged or melee dps kills 3-4 at a time, while all other players focus on the boss /healing
-healer anticipates (as well as tank) that when the Tonberry starts casting his screaming attack or w/e it's called, the healer / tank hit defensive skills / heals to counter the 3k damage hit
-never kite, stay absolutely still besides the person on the adds (edited to add this) also dont let the tonberrys reach the tank in the middle

/repeat until death


it's a piece of piss
srsly maybe your healer sux

This guy is a fun fight. I am a bard and always do the kiting adds, there are 2 things of advice i could offer. The best is to get him to 4 rancor (with a warrior he should be able to eat 4 every rancor due to static numbers) Unless it was recently fixed there is a moment right after the stab animation starts but before the stacks disappear where you can kill an add and not have it assess a stack of rancor. Other than that the main goal is to focus the King right when the big adds spawn.

The biggest issue you guys are going to have is that you have a warrior tank... They just lack some of the CD's and survivability of the paladin.

This is the way I prefer to do the fight.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cRTLRilhsE

No need to kill the adds it just puts more pressure on the healer and tank.

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Originally Posted by Chahls

it's a piece of piss
srsly maybe your healer sux

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What might my healer be doing wrong? Things have changed since 1.0 so maybe hes just missing something obvious. any specific points on how the healer might be better able to heal threw this fight and how the tank might stay alive better as a war would be a great help. I am sure we can do this (we did once already) and I am sure 1-2 ppl are just missing something small. I think I see what the tnak did wrong for kiting, but he was still having trouble with hate as it was straigh up tanking him.

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Originally Posted by Sosuke

What might my healer be doing wrong? Things have changed since 1.0 so maybe hes just missing something obvious. any specific points on how the healer might be better able to heal threw this fight and how the tank might stay alive better as a war would be a great help. I am sure we can do this (we did once already) and I am sure 1-2 ppl are just missing something small. I think I see what the tnak did wrong for kiting, but he was still having trouble with hate as it was straigh up tanking him.

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Keep the tank topped up 100% of the time.
Anticipate a 50% spike.
Heal back up to 100%, maintain.
Until king @ 0%

This fight is simple if u know the mechanics. Rancor stab gets stronger with each tonberry killed. It resets its stacks everytime it is used. The more stacks the stronger the hit gets. Most tanks die at 5 stacks unless he is over geared for the fight. Strategy to use is to clear adds as they spawn right away while dpsing and leaving dots on boss. At 50% hp he will summon 4 tonberries if u are having problems with tank dying at 4 stacks keep it no more than 3 and kite one tonberry and kill in the next stacks of rancor. At around 20% hp it will summon big tonberries. Make sure to have range clear off remaining tonberries from phase 1 them burst boss. Make sure to save your LB for phase 2 to clear much easier. If your party is over geared u can just tank and spank while having 1 range dps take down adds and other on boss whole time without having to worry about rancor stacks.

Also to help with this if your healer/tank is really having problems just cast stone skin before rancor goes off. It will annouce when he is about to use in the middle of your screen before hand to enable you to cast it in time. If your healer was in mie cast have him swiftcast stoneskin to make it in time. Also if you accident have the boss consume 5 or more stacks by qccident have your pld tank use the 10sec invincible skill.

Follow through and you should have no problems, gluck

- Focus on Tonberry King first.
- Kill only three(3) little tonberries ( you will see stacks on Tonberry King if how many tonberries you've killed)
- Then wait for Tonberry King to unleash his attack releasing the 3 stacks
- repeat (it will have 3 waves of little tonberries by the way)

when Bigger tonberries start spawning focus dps on Tonberry King.

Since you had 2 Blm, one of them could have been the Adds killer, while the other simply dps boss (with no aoe). This makes it so that managing stacks is easier.
In my case with a recent run, I was with a summoner buddy, but since their dmg is mostly aoes and dots, I was on Add duty, so it was a bit slow running after each tomberry since I was a monk.
I lb the boss later on, and continued killing adds so that it wouldn't overwhelm us.

You are doing it the hard way, when there is no need to even kill the adds.