Removal of AK speed run unintended consequence.

As we all know, even in speed run not all DD have enough damage to kill the wall, much less without LB. Hell, even accident happen to expert Originally, even if lb is lose, there is a chance of pulling some mob to get lb again. Now they must one shot it, of not the instance is lose. This will force people to group with the very best gear people as to not to waste time. SE plan to help new people just backfire 100 fold.

People already wanted the "very best geared players", nothing is changed.

It push them to want even better gear and more experienced.

The only consequence I really see is that it's going to be harder to get people to want to do Amdapor after their Mytho is capped. They'll likely want to do Castrum or another efficient method for Philosophy.

I understand what you're trying to say. However, I think I can vouch that most players typically feel more comfortable having a well-equipped players to help them on harder dungeons such as AK.

But ya, if you can't get well-equipped players to help you and only new ones... it's definitely going to be a rough ride for sure :(

You dont need any special or best DD to take Demon Wall down, just need people that know what they are doing. The dungeon drop ilvl60 items so I personally expect people to NOT be in AF doing it, at least have ilvl50 or ilvl55. WIth that you should be able to do it without any mayor problem. I can't wait for SE to put ilvlgear restriction to some content so people stop pretending to do everything in AF.

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Originally Posted by Myrhn

You dont need any special or best DD to take Demon Wall down, just need people that know what they are doing. The dungeon drop ilvl60 items so I personally expect people to NOT be in AF doing it, at least have ilvl50 or ilvl55. WIth that you should be able to do it without any mayor problem. I can't wait for SE to put ilvlgear restriction to some content so people stop pretending to do everything in AF.

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Ahh the ignorant who has a grudge against AF! You do realise that AF armor is indeed not the cause of people doing poor dps, it's the fact that they grind fates to level and thus don't maintain a level appropriate weapon or accessories.
Not to mention to get a decent weapon with ease you need to *Gasp* clear AK for your GC weapon and the fact that they usually don't know how to do a simple rotation.

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Originally Posted by Myrhn

You dont need any special or best DD to take Demon Wall down, just need people that know what they are doing. The dungeon drop ilvl60 items so I personally expect people to NOT be in AF doing it, at least have ilvl50 or ilvl55. WIth that you should be able to do it without any mayor problem. I can't wait for SE to put ilvlgear restriction to some content so people stop pretending to do everything in AF.

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For the record.. Your level 45 AF gear is item level 50... Just an FYI

I'm in AF with a few HQ accessories and an HQ weapon and my job gearset is saying War 55. So if they restrict us to ilvl 55 wont that still mean plenty of people in AF going into things @ 55?

I don't know how its getting this calculation, but thats what I've got.

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Originally Posted by Myrhn

You dont need any special or best DD to take Demon Wall down, just need people that know what they are doing. The dungeon drop ilvl60 items so I personally expect people to NOT be in AF doing it, at least have ilvl50 or ilvl55. WIth that you should be able to do it without any mayor problem. I can't wait for SE to put ilvlgear restriction to some content so people stop pretending to do everything in AF.

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lv 45 AF is ilvl 50, AF chest is ilvl 55.............................................

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Originally Posted by Xellos2099

As we all know, even in speed run not all DD have enough damage to kill the wall, much less without LB. Hell, even accident happen to expert Originally, even if lb is lose, there is a chance of pulling some mob to get lb again. Now they must one shot it, of not the instance is lose. This will force people to group with the very best gear people as to not to waste time. SE plan to help new people just backfire 100 fold.

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if you dont have enough dps to beat demon wall without limit, you're bad and should uninstall. You don't need great gear to beat it.

I don;t need it, but a LOT of people need the limit to kill bee.

True Story. Its not about "no able to kill the wall" its about "not enough time for whole dungeon because its the 10th rage quit because my gear it 'bad'".

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Originally Posted by Dashuto

... my job gearset is saying War 55. ...I don't know how its getting this calculation, but thats what I've got.

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This is based purely and solely on your weapon's level.