Fix EXP already

FFXIV sells itself as an MMO where one character can become anything but its clear once you advance through the story the ability to gain EXP becomes solely based on FATEs or grinding leves.

FATEs are so overcrowded right now you barely get the oppurtunity to hit two buttons before it's over. Leves give crap for EXP and there are no EXP parties or dungeon runs for EXP.

This game bills itself as casual but being able to simply gain EXP is a nightmare.

I see your complaint, but where is your suggestion? :confused:
Don't get me wrong, I agree with your post, I am just one of those who like doing FATEs...
I do think leveling other classes could be just a little... better (easier?).

I think you should get more for repeating guildleves and leves. Guildleves in particular since they are supposed to help teach party mechanics.

I think they should raise dungeon exp, lower FATE exp. Maybe up Leve exp a little bit. Make dungeoning more attractive to people beyond drops. I honestly love the dungeon system as it is, but it does frustrate me that the exp is comparatively low to what I could be getting just going out and spamming AoEs in FATEs.

-The current leve exp is appropriate for gatherers/crafters.
-I wouldn't have a problem with them increasing leve exp for battle classes.
-The fact that many FATEs are finished after 1-2 minutes due to swarming is a real issue that I think they should fix. Especially the large-scale FATE with Behemoth/Odin where the monsters don't even load on many peoples' screens.. but they already said they're looking into that.
-Nearly every quest in this game is boring to me. Talk to person A, run over here and beat monster/talk to person B, run back.
-As it is, Guildhest is totally pointless after the first time. I think they should fix that. Or introduce ones that aren't just tutorials.

Edit: Also, I really dislike that Mor Dhona has just become a hub zone/the new Ul'dah. I don't know how they could even begin to fix that, but I would love it if they did. It doesn't feel cool/dangerous/endgame-y when the number of adventurers in Revenant's Toll seems like it's greater than the entire Imperial force

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Originally Posted by Yuyushuu

I think they should raise dungeon exp, lower FATE exp. Maybe up Leve exp a little bit. Make dungeoning more attractive to people beyond drops. I honestly love the dungeon system as it is, but it does frustrate me that the exp is comparatively low to what I could be getting just going out and spamming AoEs in FATEs.

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This would be great if it didn't take and hour or two to run a dungeon using duty finder.

You know you get bonus XP if there is big difference from your high level class and your current class...

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Originally Posted by NeoBahamutXZero

You know you get bonus XP if there is big difference from your high level class and your current class...

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which only affects kill XP and FATE rewards (for w/e reason) why it doesn't boost LEVE or Dungeon reward XP idk

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Originally Posted by Sparthos

FFXIV sells itself as an MMO where one character can become anything but its clear once you advance through the story the ability to gain EXP becomes solely based on FATEs or grinding leves.

FATEs are so overcrowded right now you barely get the oppurtunity to hit two buttons before it's over. Leves give crap for EXP and there are no EXP parties or dungeon runs for EXP.

This game bills itself as casual but being able to simply gain EXP is a nightmare.

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I agree! I really want to level another class but its just so tedious and boring, FATES are really boring and Dungeons give no exp.
Give us more quests or something!

I'd like to see Guildhests increased in XP considerably possibly in equal ratio to Fates. I wouldn't mind dungeons also seeing an increase in XP but I personally find them to be too long in duration and only run them occasionally.

It's hard to be a polymath.

By all means up the exp but none of you are allowed to complain when you've maxed out everything and have nothing to do. <_<

I mean it, a list is being made, little moogle hitmen will be dispatched.

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Originally Posted by Ziorhon

little moogle hitmen will be dispatched

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I lol'd. Take my like

Personally, I feel that fates should give about ~25-40% less experience, Leves should give 80-120% MORE experience, guildhests should give ~200% more experience that they do now and it'll be absolutely wonderful.

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Originally Posted by flavored

Personally, I feel that fates should give about ~25-40% less experience, Leves should give 80-120% MORE experience, guildhests should give ~200% more experience that they do now and it'll be absolutely wonderful.

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guilhests already give great XP... THE FIRST TIME D:< jsut remove the "first time bonus" and make it standard =/

Lower FATE exp slightly.

Raise dungeon exp substantially.

Give small chance for good rewards/loot for trash mobs in all dungeons. Also increase substantially Gil drops from mobs in all dungeons.

Give first time completion exp reward for every class/job you take thru a GuildHest, rewarding you for learning your job in a PT. Base exp reward on how well objectives are completed and directions followed by the group. Give a large notice at the beginning that exp will be rewarded by the group's ability to follow directions.

Currently we have these two exp bonus for leveling another class...

-Any class lower than your highest class: +50% exp per kill (both outside and inside dungeons)

- Once you get your first lvl 50 class: +50% exp from FATES for all classes not lvl 50.


They need to add more such as add more leve we can complete per day once we get our first lvl 50, increase leve reward amount once you get your class lvl 50 for any class not lvl 50, or Guildhest Bonus daily exp and gil reward so people will redo Guildhest more

SE might as give everyone level 50s on everything....doesnt matter what SE does, these people will find a reason to complain.

I would like to see a few zones/areas where a party grind for exp is an option. As in a decent camp'able spot where the re spawn rate of the mobs would be increased to facilitate a group grinding. not a dungeon, fate or leve. just a zone in the open world where if some so chose they could gather a few like minded individuals run to the area of choice and slay and gain some exp, develop better skills for your class in a group setting without relying on the duty finder.

I also feel that this type of game play has a huge advantage in building the local community of a given server within itself. T

To team you up with people you can play with again at your choice is also a major positive step as opposed cross realm you may never find again. There are numerous advantages to an option like this and hardly any negatives.

I don't really care how long it takes to level or the ratio of exp per hour compared to other methods. im not racing anyone to get to the finish line. I'm looking to enjoy the ride and I am sure there are at least some who would agree.

Leveling second jobs via FATE grinds is actually faster than your first class assuming you did your story+ quests + mix of FATEs.

Things need to be adjusted so there are more options, but FATEs (with the +50% exp from not being top level) make leveling faster on your second class than your first would have leveled. Join a party and organize where groups are going to ensure different groups are not running to multiple FATEs at once so you miss many of them.

Also, mixing in grinding mobs between FATEs and not just standing around help a lot.

i have to agree, its gotten to the point where every zone has a bunch of fate parties running around mindlessly zerging the target areas.

I thought FATEs were supposed to be random things that popped up while you were on the way to do a leve or in the area that you were engaged in some other activity. The exp should be lowered a little to encourage people to do the other things like guildleves+guildhests, etc...

I wouldn't mind if the quests reset for each class. I'd rather do quests then grind fates.

Fate swarming is only an issue during primetime. My issue with certain Fates is it's radius; especially when you are in level sync and people fight the mobs out of the area.

As others have said, we simply need more attractive options here. FATEs give the best experience. FATEs are not fun; tedious and boring, at least for myself and my crew.

Increase dungeon experience, increase leve quest experience, perhaps even make... dare I say it... grinding mobs in a party worth it again? *shrugs*

We just need more viable options, SE. Hook us up!

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Originally Posted by M4Fade

... perhaps even make... dare I say it... grinding mobs in a party worth it again? *shrugs*
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I haven't even reached 50 on any of my battle classes yet, and I'm already bored of FATEs. Grinding mobs in a party with some friends has been more entertaining, but the leveling rate is significantly slower, especially since these exp parties tend to only be 3 or 4 people large. :(

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Originally Posted by Kalrific

Fate swarming is only an issue during primetime. My issue with certain Fates is it's radius; especially when you are in level sync and people fight the mobs out of the area.

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Some of us have day jobs and can only play during primetime. So saying it only occurs then doesn't mean much! :)

If there was an option to reset quests in an area or something, that'd be cool. I love those little side quests.
Also Battle Leves are so weak.... I feel like I'm wasting my time cause EXP goes nowhere.