Widen the ranks of people who can play together without hurting SP

5 ranks isnt enough, make it atleast 10 I am tired of not being able to play with my friends. Stop making the game less fun with artificial fun barriers.

or.. http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-my-level-sync

Yeah, please! It would make SP much more better with my LS

Level Sync is the answer

Agreed level sync is the way !

id be cool with leve sync or whatever lets me play with the people I want to play with.

Yeah or add level sync =)

Level sync as anything else could end up being abused (and players have proven they'll abuse SP gains in any way the game allows.)

Ever heard of powerleveling? Yeah, that 10 rank range prevents that. Leave it the way it is

Combo breaker. I want neither because I want tough mobs in tough areas that require coordinate parties at certain levels (not a party between 30-50 cuz i doubt they can get the difficulty right) and level synch makes higher level regions obsolete. Just level up and catch up to your friends its not that difficult...or maybe wait 'til there's more people actually playing the game before complaining about lack of people to party with.

And honestly, adjusting the range would only make the game easier to rank up. The game already hands you ranks and levels for free and it doesn't need to be any easier

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Originally Posted by JayvirDeforte

Ever heard of powerleveling? Yeah, that 10 rank range prevents that. Leave it the way it is

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Who cares. If I cant play with the people I want to play with at some point im not going to play. I dont worry about E-peen. I dont care if every person in the game has 10 50s. I just wanna play with people I like playing with without killing the SP. Remove the fun barrier please.

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Originally Posted by JayvirDeforte

Ever heard of powerleveling? Yeah, that 10 rank range prevents that. Leave it the way it is

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No it doesn't I can one shot sheep near Bloodshore on my R50 Archer and my R1 friend will get 400+ SP so power levelling is very much alive in FFXIV, up until about R23 anyway.

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Originally Posted by AlexiaKidd

No it doesn't I can one shot sheep near Bloodshore on my R50 Archer and my R1 friend will get 400+ SP so power levelling is very much alive in FFXIV, up until about R23 anyway.

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Except that the problem with that is that SP is so jacked up below rank 20 that they could get 400+ sp from fighting beetles. I've seen 4k sp from one mob in a battlewarden at r1. It has nothing to do with powerleveling

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Originally Posted by JayvirDeforte

Except that the problem with that is that SP is so jacked up below rank 20 that they could get 400+ sp from fighting beetles. I've seen 4k sp from one mob in a battlewarden at r1. It has nothing to do with powerleveling

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Well I don't know about that as it has been a very long time since I had anything under R25 so if thats the case then SE need to really look into that. I was aware they made it easier to get to R23 but I didn't realise they gave it such a huge boost.

It is horribly bad. People level so fast now. I had a r2 join my LS two weeks ago and he is in the mid 40s. He doesn't know half of the spells and doesn't know the basics of the game. SP gain is crazy high already. Increasing the range of SP gain in parties would make this matter tragically worse.

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Originally Posted by JayvirDeforte

It is horribly bad. People level so fast now. I had a r2 join my LS two weeks ago and he is in the mid 40s. He doesn't know half of the spells and doesn't know the basics of the game. SP gain is crazy high already. Increasing the range of SP gain in parties would make this matter tragically worse.

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We have like 20-30k active players now the game needs to be more fun not less fun. People quit all the time because they arent having fun. Remove the fun barriers. Widen the ranks and remove surplus today!

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Originally Posted by Mack

Combo breaker. I want neither because I want tough mobs in tough areas that require coordinate parties at certain levels (not a party between 30-50 cuz i doubt they can get the difficulty right) and level synch makes higher level regions obsolete. Just level up and catch up to your friends its not that difficult...or maybe wait 'til there's more people actually playing the game before complaining about lack of people to party with.

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I agree with this, level sync is not needed until the game is very old (like 8 years old).

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Originally Posted by AlexiaKidd

Well I don't know about that as it has been a very long time since I had anything under R25 so if thats the case then SE need to really look into that. I was aware they made it easier to get to R23 but I didn't realise they gave it such a huge boost.

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Here's 3375 SP off leve linking the starter mission level quest once:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6653816/3000%20sp.jpg

Leveling 1-23 is waaay too fast, it's stupid. I went 1-5 off 1 mob, then 1-10 off the next level, dinging 10 in less than 5 mins. This needs adjusted, so does everything related to the exp/mob difficulty/leveling system though.

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Originally Posted by TonyMontana

We have like 20-30k active players now the game needs to be more fun not less fun. People quit all the time because they arent having fun. Remove the fun barriers. Widen the ranks and remove surplus today!

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This is hardly a fun barrier, although there are plenty in this game. I doubt your wish will come true but I'm sure you'll have plenty of chance to play with your friends.

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Originally Posted by Mack

This is hardly a fun barrier, although there are plenty in this game. I doubt your wish will come true but I'm sure you'll have plenty of chance to play with your friends.

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I might be able to play with them one day unless they quit like the other 90ish % of people who bought the game did because of lack of fun.

Fast =/= fun.

I've had more people quit my LS because they hit rank cap so quickly.

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Originally Posted by TonyMontana

I might be able to play with them one day unless they quit like the other 90ish % of people who bought the game did because of lack of fun.

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I meant you'll get content that will allow you to play with them...just quit the game, its obviously not doing it for you nor your friends, this has nothing to do with the inability to level up with them trust me, the game is just boring as hell still. Why don't you just wait for the content and battle changes coming and then complain all you want, or maybe you'll get what you're looking for.

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Originally Posted by JayvirDeforte

Fast =/= fun.

I've had more people quit my LS because they hit rank cap so quickly.

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Did they quit because they leveled to cap fast or did they burn out? Or did they even quit because there's nothing there at the end? People are quitting all the time because the game lacks content. Look at how many people leveled many jobs to 75 on FFXI and how many of them quit? Well, I'm sure some burned out but there was no reason to quit, the game had content.

I am all for level sync, but maybe it should wait until PS3 release so people don't cap everything and have nothing to do. I'd prefer leveling to be slow at the moment, but speed up later on.

I still can't see why level sync would be bad for this game, can someone give me some examples please?

I'm not arguing against a level sync, I'm just opposed to widening the sp bonus range

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Originally Posted by AlexiaKidd

I still can't see why level sync would be bad for this game, can someone give me some examples please?

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because people are scared we will be forced to all levelin 1 one central location(kinda like how 33+ is all at BW)
there is no reason to not have level sync in other words.

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Originally Posted by TonyMontana

because people are scared we will be forced to all levelin 1 one central location(kinda like how 33+ is all at BW)
there is no reason to not have level sync in other words.

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So we aren't all levelling in a central area already? What do we do now, we all do the same leves with level sync that isn't going to change, the only thing that will change is that you will have more people to do them with as you will be able to sync within a broader range. You still get the same SP if the mobs are 10+ ranks above you so you wouldn't be gaining more SP than normal either as you control the mobs level's with the star difficulty.

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Originally Posted by AlexiaKidd

So we aren't all levelling in a central area already? What do we do now, we all do the same leves with level sync that isn't going to change, the only thing that will change is that you will have more people to do them with as you will be able to sync within a broader range. You still get the same SP if the mobs are 10+ ranks above you so you wouldn't be gaining more SP than normal either as you control the mobs level's with the star difficulty.

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I agree with you.

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Originally Posted by JayvirDeforte

Ever heard of powerleveling? Yeah, that 10 rank range prevents that. Leave it the way it is

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No it doesn't. The current system actually encourages powerleveling, ironically.

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Originally Posted by Shiyo

Here's 3375 SP off leve linking the starter mission level quest once:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6653816/3000%20sp.jpg

Leveling 1-23 is waaay too fast, it's stupid. I went 1-5 off 1 mob, then 1-10 off the next level, dinging 10 in less than 5 mins. This needs adjusted, so does everything related to the exp/mob difficulty/leveling system though.

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How is it stupid when 1-23 is EXACTLY 10% of your levelling curve? Hell even rank 40 is only 50% through your levelling curve.

I dont get why levelling has to be difficult? Its just a chore to slow you down, nothing else. And this speed is fine to welcome new levels.

if rank 40 is only 50%, then when we hit 75 or w/e, its going to be even less lol, be like 30%.

No thanks. The game is easy enough to level as is.

Give me a break...

They just want to play this multiplayer game with people, dont be such downers guys.

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Originally Posted by Nephera

They just want to play this multiplayer game with people, dont be such downers guys.

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It is already a multiplayer game with people. It doesn't need to get any easier then it already is.

Difficulty isn't the point. It's an MMO, which is a type of game people tend to enjoy playing with other people, particularly their friends. If there is a system in place which makes it more difficult to and/or penalizes you for playing with your friends, it's not a good system, and deserves to be looked at for tweaking or removal. There are millions of people playing various MMOs all around the world, but sometimes you want to play with a specific handful of those people (these are generally called friends), and you should be allowed to do that without anything hindering your enjoyment of the game or their company.

That said, level syncing would be a much better way to facilitate friends having fun together than simply widening the existing rank gap.

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Originally Posted by Theocrat

Difficulty isn't the point. It's an MMO, which is a type of game people tend to enjoy playing with other people, particularly their friends. If there is a system in place which makes it more difficult to and/or penalizes you for playing with your friends, it's not a good system, and deserves to be looked at for tweaking or removal. There are millions of people playing various MMOs all around the world, but sometimes you want to play with a specific handful of those people (these are generally called friends), and you should be allowed to do that without anything hindering your enjoyment of the game or their company.

That said, level syncing would be a much better way to facilitate friends having fun together than simply widening the existing rank gap.

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Exactly. Only an idiot would want the game to be less user friendly for the sake of making the game harder. I know since the game is so easy let make it where you can only play with your monitor turned off, FFXIV could be the hardest MMO on the market wouldnt that be great??!!

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Originally Posted by TonyMontana

5 ranks isnt enough, make it atleast 10 I am tired of not being able to play with my friends.

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First, it's +5/-10. So if you're within 10 levels of them, you're getting the party bonus.

Second, when I want to play with my friends, I play with them. If I don't get full SP, who cares? You don't have to max your SP at all times. It's ok to just play for fun sometimes.

Third, are all your jobs 10 levels above your friends? If you want to be within 5 levels of them, then just play another job.

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Originally Posted by Theocrat

Difficulty isn't the point. It's an MMO, which is a type of game people tend to enjoy playing with other people, particularly their friends. If there is a system in place which makes it more difficult to and/or penalizes you for playing with your friends, it's not a good system, and deserves to be looked at for tweaking or removal. There are millions of people playing various MMOs all around the world, but sometimes you want to play with a specific handful of those people (these are generally called friends), and you should be allowed to do that without anything hindering your enjoyment of the game or their company.

That said, level syncing would be a much better way to facilitate friends having fun together than simply widening the existing rank gap.

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Sorry, difficulty IS THE POINT. So that means more people could be dragged through the retarded levinshower exploit getting people to 50 that much faster in a game with nothing to do. Along with the myriad of other reasons its a hugely bad idea. Sorry, the game is in candy-ass mode enough as is.

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Originally Posted by viion

How is it stupid when 1-23 is EXACTLY 10% of your levelling curve? Hell even rank 40 is only 50% through your levelling curve.

I dont get why levelling has to be difficult? Its just a chore to slow you down, nothing else. And this speed is fine to welcome new levels.

if rank 40 is only 50%, then when we hit 75 or w/e, its going to be even less lol, be like 30%.

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You are aware at the current curve If SE raised the level cap to 75 to level between 74 and 75 the current curve would make it roughly something like 6 million SP for that level.

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Originally Posted by VydarrTyr

First, it's +5/-10. So if you're within 10 levels of them, you're getting the party bonus.

Second, when I want to play with my friends, I play with them. If I don't get full SP, who cares? You don't have to max your SP at all times. It's ok to just play for fun sometimes.

Third, are all your jobs 10 levels above your friends? If you want to be within 5 levels of them, then just play another job.

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I have all combat classes at 33+ they are new players : (