Armoury insanity

ISSUE: Armoury chest is a mess, why Square Enix have you implemented a storage function that fails to tell you whether you have equipment equiped or not?
Example: my BLM has a goat tooth staff equiped, i have the same staff in my armory chest, i want to sell one but wait a second i haven't a clue which one it is, i take a chance and sell one and BOOM i can no longer change to my BLM as the weapon has been sold.....this gets very annoying and frustrating and potentially character breaking when you have multiple classes and equipment.

Simple solution: when a weapon or Armour piece is equipped, take it out of the armory chest and keep it on the character, OR high lite what is equipped or take away the option of pressing X to sell it. That way when i look at my armory chest i know that what im looking at is different pieces of UNEQUIPPED GEAR, that i can sell or trade without fear of fucking up one of my other classes........i mean come on can you sell Clouds buster sword when its equipped? no, can you sell Squalls Gunblade that is equipped? No, why such a simple error in such a huge modern game?
Common sense Square, i hope it gets resolved, i flagged this in the BETA as it ruined my toon, im flabbergasted that this can still happen in the full version. please fix it

I don't understand your issue and are you talking to yourself? Sorry if I posted if that is the case.

I'm confused, do you mean equipped in a gear set or actively being worn by your character.

Because when I have gear EQUIPPED it's not in my armory chest anymore, but when it is part of a gear set that is not currently equipped it is in the armory because it is not actively equipped.

So I'm guessing what you're wanting is for items in gear sets to be removed from your armory chest? Seems like a more annoying way to do things.

Check what you sell before you sell it. It's you're own fault: the armoury is for quick re-equipping, not for locking gear down, it won't tell you you have a piece in a gearset.

On the Character tab of the character config menu you can enable filters that will warn you if an item is Unique, Spiritbonded or Meldable when you attempt to sell it, this may help you in future.

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Originally Posted by Pandastirfry

I'm confused, do you mean equipped in a gear set or actively being worn by your character.

Because when I have gear EQUIPPED it's not in my armory chest anymore, but when it is part of a gear set that is not currently equipped it is in the armory because it is not actively equipped.

So I'm guessing what you're wanting is for items in gear sets to be removed from your armory chest? Seems like a more annoying way to do things.

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when my BLM is equiped i can see every piece of armour in my chest, wether its equipped by other classes or not i dont know because the game doesnt tell me, what i want is for all the pieces that are currently being used by however many classes you have to just be high lited or to have the option of selling them accidentally being removed

i have 6 classes all with different robes/armour and what not, when i look at the armory chest it does not tell me which gear is being used, this makes it incredibly hard to determine which i can put back in my inventory for sale as it doesn't issue a warning when you move it that its currently equipped.....i don't get the difficulty in understanding this

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Originally Posted by Raeletta

Check what you sell before you sell it. It's you're own fault: the armoury is for quick re-equipping, not for locking gear down, it won't tell you you have a piece in a gearset.

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What part of having a copy of the exact same item wasn't clear? Assuming it wasn't spiritbound at all, it would be entirely possibly to sell something you have equipped on a set just because you had to guess which it was. That is where the problem is.

Unless you intend for people to constantly switch between gear sets just to sell things...

Maybe you could keep items you want to sell in your inventory rather that in your armoury. Or even on your retainer. No reason to have weapon duplicates in your armoury chest anyway.

But it would be nice to see a marker indicating armoury chest item is part of a saved gearset.

Another issue I have noticed - The armoury chests seems to equip gear randomly:

Example - I have 2 x Cotton dalmatica of gathering in my chest. One has Soulbound % and materia on it, which I actually use. One i picked up randomly from a quest, got put in my chest automatically. I change classes, go do some FATE, change to gather and mine some stuff, go back to town to sort out inventory etc. What do i see? The weaker, newer dalmatica was equipped when changing class using the 'Gear sets' and now has Soulbound % on it...

I know that my own temporary work around is to remove gear from the armoury chest, but it still should not be happening...

This needs addressing.

The problem is if the game can't find the exact piece (Say a yellow robe) It'll use a different one if it can (Same robe, blue with materia) and warn you it couldn't find the exact piece requested.

It could probably be done, but the spiritbond activates as soon as you finish a fight, that should be enough for the filter I mentioned to work.

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Wheres the guessing? if you're running that many classes you don't know which ones are using what weapon, you should sit down and organise it.

A simple message saying "Warning: this item is being currently used on insertyoursetnamehere set." would fix the issue. Yeah I support this, but still I don't understand why almost everyone express their issues or concerns like "Omfg SE this is 21st century for gods sake!!".

Polishing a game takes time, a lot of time.

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Originally Posted by Sanchezz4387

ISSUE: Armoury chest is a mess, why Square Enix have you implemented a storage function that fails to tell you whether you have equipment equiped or not?
Example: my BLM has a goat tooth staff equiped, i have the same staff in my armory chest, i want to sell one but wait a second i haven't a clue which one it is, i take a chance and sell one and BOOM i can no longer change to my BLM as the weapon has been sold.....this gets very annoying and frustrating and potentially character breaking when you have multiple classes and equipment.

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Because you cant even double check and that's your fault? It's your insanity i'm afraid.

Ilenya understands me, thank you

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Originally Posted by Livi

Because you cant even double check and that's your fault? It's your insanity i'm afraid.

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are you actually serious? so when im doing leatherworking, and i get a new piece of armour and switch, my goldsmith and weaver are wearing the same gear, i want to get rid of my leather robe but cant tell between the 3 which ive just unequipped because guess what, all 3 are in my armour chest and it doesnt tell me if they are equipped or not, AND the game wouldn't tell me until ive got rid of the wrong piece then tried changing back to leatherworker.......then id get "you are missing a piece, unable to change" all i want is to be able to go oh those 2 robes are being used by a toon i can sell that one, bosh easy peasy no hassle.........but no that isnt the case

Why is anyone selling anything directly from your armoury? - send stuff back to your inventory to sell and use your armoury as safe keeping as intended

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Originally Posted by Sanchezz4387

are you actually serious? so when im doing leatherworking, and i get a new piece of armour and switch, my goldsmith and weaver are wearing the same gear, i want to get rid of my leather robe but cant tell between the 3 which ive just unequipped because guess what, all 3 are in my armour chest and it doesnt tell me if they are equipped or not, AND the game wouldn't tell me until ive got rid of the wrong piece then tried changing back to leatherworker.......then id get "you are missing a piece, unable to change" all i want is to be able to go oh those 2 robes are being used by a toon i can sell that one, bosh easy peasy no hassle.........but no that isnt the case

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Irrelevant. If clothing parts are missing you can still re-equip a set it'll just be missing a piece. The only time this will block you re-equipping an item if if you sell or destroy a weapon, since the weapon is the part that defines the class role. Likewise it's very easy to tell worn items in a set apart from "new" items; worn items will have soul binding and can't be sold anyway. Finally when crafting new gear it is NEVER sent to the armoury but kept in your inventory

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Originally Posted by Nikki

If i listen to white knights everything is players fault even though the common sense states that the equipped gear should be locked out in armory and un sellable till it is removed from the equipped set. Right now it is hard to make a difference especially if you are leveling multiple classes.

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Again, why are you even selling directly from your armour panel? :/

This is nothing to do with white knights and fanboyism. The system works just fine, this is strictly a PEBKAC error (As someone who has more ranks in crafting than combat classes, and enjoys trading I'd hope I'd know a thing or two about inventory management)

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Originally Posted by Raeletta

Check what you sell before you sell it. It's you're own fault: the armoury is for quick re-equipping, not for locking gear down, it won't tell you you have a piece in a gearset.

On the Character tab of the character config menu you can enable filters that will warn you if an item is Unique, Spiritbonded or Meldable when you attempt to sell it, this may help you in future.

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Originally Posted by Livi

Because you cant even double check and that's your fault? It's your insanity i'm afraid.

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If i listen to white knights everything is players fault even though the common sense states that the equipped gear should be locked out in armory and un sellable till it is removed from the equipped set. Right now it is hard to make a difference especially if you are leveling multiple classes.

But hey SE can do no wrong everything is players fault.

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Originally Posted by Nikki

If i listen to white knights everything is players fault even though the common sense states that the equipped gear should be locked out in armory and un sellable till it is removed from the equipped set. Right now it is hard to make a difference especially if you are leveling multiple classes.

But hey SE can do no wrong everything is players fault.

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Not white knighting. Just think of the armoury as a macro (Which, essentially, it is).
It'd be nice if they added a warning to armoury-linked gear, but it'd repeatedly have to check every set you have when you open a shop. this (Client or serverside) will slow things down. If it's added, neato! If not, be mroe careful. The filter will help, although I'm surprised it's not enabled by default.

What you propose, (gear staying in your armory box while equiped, but highlighted to mark it as equiped) is already being worked on. There was a dev post somewhere basicaly saying they are adjusting the armory system to just that.

Edit: Sorry misunderstood you proposal.. Never mind

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Originally Posted by RyuujinZERO

Again, why are you even selling directly from your armour panel? :/

This is nothing to do with white knights and fanboyism. The system works just fine, this is strictly a PEBKAC error (As someone who has more ranks in crafting than combat classes, and enjoys trading I'd hope I'd know a thing or two about inventory management)

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Because inventory fills up fast while leveling so it makes better sense to put weapons and armor in armory chest when low on space? yeah... yeah 'the system works fine' heard that many times around here just like how no 'over flow inventory' is also players fault.

This issue has been brough up before.
Basically the problem is once you start to level many classes then it's impossible to remember every piece of equipment that you are using.
A small indication in the form of an icon or outline on gear equipped by any of your classes would go a long way, as well as a confirmation window if you are trying to sell an item that is currently in use by you.

This have already been suggested in the Quality of Life thread where all these suggestions should be to make it easier for the devs to find it.

I run many gear sets! crafting, gathering and 2 jobs. I gets messy.

I would like to see some type of mark on gear thats part of a gear set.

Haha, I have been locked out of quick switching as well. Same reason. I'm glad they are working on it.

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Originally Posted by Nikki

Because inventory fills up fast while leveling so it makes better sense to put weapons and armor in armory chest when low on space? yeah... yeah 'the system works fine' heard that many times around here just like how no 'over flow inventory' is also players fault.

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I have to contest that. How the heck do you fill 4 panes of inventory space in one session?

Like i said, I'm BIG on crafting and harvesting and civvie stuff. 2 of my inventory panels are dedicated to crafting materials, and another inventory panel is full of repair materials/materia/food/potions. But I've NEVER run out of space while adventuring or had the need to use my armoury space as storage