Odin/Behemoth crashing zones... It's getting ridiculous

Thread title says it all.... Its absolutely, broken, ludicrous, preposterous, outrageous, silly, absurd, laughable, foolish, nonsensical, comical, daffy, farcical, harebrained, hilarious, derisory, foolheaded and ridiculous that a FATE can crash a server.

The fact that you WILL crash if you don't FLEE Coerthas when Behemoth pops? Whose idea was that, honestly?

And when you do DC, you can't log back in until the FATE is over.

As if that wasn't bad enough, when you want to actually participate in the FATE, you wont see Behemoth for more than 10 seconds.

I swear the first person who says "Wait until the server populations calm down" deserves a forum AND a game ban..... seriously.

Its idiotic.
Take them out of the game until you can have more than 3 people in a zone without it crashing. It's vanity gear anyway.

Lastly, where are all the people from BETA who thought FATEs were ZOMG so frikkin AWESOME? Have you seen the error of your ways?

I just tried to zone into coerthas and got BSOD. now im getting 3102.. Friends tell me it was because behemoth was up on balmung..

"RRRRAAAGALAGAGAGAGALALAGAGLAGAGLAGLLAGAAAHHHH!"

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Originally Posted by Judge_Hellboy

"RRRRAAAGALAGAGAGAGALALAGAGLAGAGLAGLLAGAAAHHHH!"

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That was beyond clever and immensely insightful. Thank you for your contribution to this thread... Your continued participation is always welcome.

Yes, I had major issues also. It didn't crash but I couldn't see Behemoth at all because of all the people. Seriously guys you need to fix this, did you not take into consideration the huge swarm of people that were going to try these high end fates?? Its the same old story with you guys...no common sense...

An idea would be to put them in there own zone and once it fills up that's it no one else can go in.

Odin (Im assuming) destroyed Ultro's, just now - 90k then world data cannot be obtained.


Another note - SE needs to start having prioritization over players - Mobs -> players.

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Originally Posted by zaineal

Odin (Im assuming) destroyed Ultro's, just now - 90k then world data cannot be obtained.


Another note - SE needs to start having prioritization over players - Mobs -> players.

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I swear every time I see a sea of minions I want to slit my wrist... The fact that they even load on my screen annoys me

Behold, the power of Odin and Behemoth!

90k twice now on Excalibur while TRYING to do fates in coerthas. Half the ones I show up to i don't even get to see the objective mobs before the fate ends lmao

They need to prioritize how loading mobs/people work to make these stupid fates even doable. It should be mob->party members->anything else. While doing Behemoth today, having my buddy tank it at one point keeping him up with heals, only to see him and behemoth disappear and him get obliterated and then me next because I couldn't even friggin' see him to run away.

In all fairness, it's probably because you have god knows how many people trying to fight Odin and Behemoth at the same time. As soon as the word gets out that they're up, everyone and his dog rushes to the immediate area. The one and only time I fought Odin, I couldn't keep a target lock on him because the sheer number of people in the fate would cause him to blink out. I didn't even know he used Zantetsuken until everybody spontaneously fell down dead.

Thanks beta white knights. Your ever lasting bias really helped the game. Pragmatism, who needs it when you can have blind love for something and flame anyone with constructive criticism.

FATEs, remove them completely. In their current form they are utter and complete shit.

Especially since Behemoth is so large you would think he would show on your screen all the time.

had odin on lamia server yesterday morning, or at least i think it was odin. nobody really saw him, but he beat the shit out of us if it was him. (pretty sure it was him)

SE i no i might be asking to much, but can i plz see the shit thats KILLING ME!!!

First time I fought Behemoth on Lamia it didn't crash it. Maybe I'm just lucky.

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Originally Posted by Furio

Thanks beta white knights. Your ever lasting bias really helped the game. Pragmatism, who needs it when you can have blind love for something and flame anyone with constructive criticism.

FATEs, remove them completely. In their current form they are utter and complete shit.

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Considering your opinion about FATEs isn't constructive at all, I think I'd rather hear the ramblings of white knights over hypocrites like you.

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Originally Posted by Vanguard319

Considering your opinion about FATEs isn't constructive at all, I think I'd rather hear the ramblings of white knights over hypocrites like you.

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Then don't read them. Nobody is forcing you.

If you think fates are good the way they are designed now: "Run in, zerg zerg zerg, 15k xp, run to the next, zerg zerg zerg, 15k xp etc...", you're the one being hypocrite.

Mr. White, do you want a game you enjoy, or one you can defend beyond its right?

Opinions are statements. Criticism and feedback can be constructive:
"I like apples" <-- opinion, nothing constructive or destructive about it.

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Originally Posted by Furio

Mr. White, do you want a game you enjoy, or one you can defend beyond its right?

Opinions are statements. Criticism and feedback can be constructive:
"I like apples" <-- opinion, nothing constructive or destructive about it.

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How about going after the people who clammored for outworld content under the misguided "OMG we need outworld bosses becuz that'z what mak3z it finla fantasie!!one!1" mentality. I would have been happy with Odin and Behemoth being in an instance rather than FATE mobs. Odin seems to drop stuff which means that yes, everyone and their dog is going to want in on that to trade in for their unique-looking armor and Zantetsukens.

I have done Behemoth twice and Odin thrice, and I cannot say from my personal experience that participating in the FATE has caused me lag. Nor have I ever been disconnected while the FATEs were active. However, Odin and Behemoth obviously blink in and out of reality due to maximum players being rendered and groups of players participating in the FATEs have been seen DCing by the dozens. Again, this has just been my personal experience and does not mean other players aren't being adversely affected.

Don't understand why people are going back to him after the first time.

It's pointless after downing him the first time you're there. Considering you get gold all you really need is the barding and you're done.

The gear is pure vanity and it's an underwhelming/bug infested fight.

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Originally Posted by Zell1226

They need to prioritize how loading mobs/people work to make these stupid fates even doable. It should be mob->party members->anything else. While doing Behemoth today, having my buddy tank it at one point keeping him up with heals, only to see him and behemoth disappear and him get obliterated and then me next because I couldn't even friggin' see him to run away.

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This was how was in 1.0... Monsters and party players were always visible and anything else would select to fill the rest. When people were in city or primal areas no matter how far player was we could always see him, even if only that player and nothing else.

They just need to edit their code to give priority to mobs > party members > other players > pets > rest. How isee now is the code select a circular area around you and since there is a lot players makes the boss not visible even if you stand right in front of him and not see him because of all other players there too. It is stupid, yes...

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Originally Posted by Furio

Then don't read them. Nobody is forcing you.

If you think fates are good the way they are designed now: "Run in, zerg zerg zerg, 15k xp, run to the next, zerg zerg zerg, 15k xp etc...", you're the one being hypocrite.

Mr. White, do you want a game you enjoy, or one you can defend beyond its right?

Opinions are statements. Criticism and feedback can be constructive:
"I like apples" <-- opinion, nothing constructive or destructive about it.

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Wow, someone got defensive, thx for validating my point.

Dude who cares!? I mean they require so much skill when zerging down as a million people and are so fun to do that they are worth messing up whole zones for other people to be able to fight for the amazing gear they drop!

I talked/warned about this a long time ago and people said "have a little faith it will get better at higher levels/after release". Well I've waited and you know what FATEs are still completely broken zergfests, SE failed miserably, and it is such a horrible waste to put in amazing mobs like Behemoth/Odin as FATEs. I really hope SE reconsiders having open world events/content that can't be done by everyone in the whole zone so those of us who enjoy competition and skill to get something useful out in the open world also have something we think is fun. There are a lot of solutions to make things like this work well. Either way though SE needs to make the zones not crash when people fight the bigger FATEs.

Personally I think they just need an aura that instantly kills those in the area that are not level appropriate and see how things go from there... but yeah, mob priority as well to be extra safe. Instantly kill non-combat pets and chocobos run away as well. Pretty much remove anything that causes unneeded load first and see what the problem is from there until you can get to the point where anti-zerg mechanics are feasible. Removing them entirely like some suggest would be a childish and kneejerk reaction to a system that just needs some tweaks. Severe ones, but still. The normal FATEs I see as little problem as they aren't much different from your standard quest just on a larger scale... give about as much exp too.

Odin/Behemoth fates and certain other ones remind me of Besieged in FFXI, you would think they would learn from their mistakes. They should have an option to turn off char's/chocobo's/minions that are outside of your party, Helps in other games for zergfests!

"Wait until the server populations calm down" :D

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Originally Posted by Shirosama

"Wait until the server populations calm down" :D

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you WOULD be from my server... hehe

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Originally Posted by Rydin

you WOULD be from my server... hehe

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had to mess with ya. But i do agree like odin appeared yesterday and it was worthless trying to fight him cause you couldnt see crap and it was lagged to death

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Originally Posted by Shirosama

had to mess with ya. But i do agree like odin appeared yesterday and it was worthless trying to fight him cause you couldnt see crap and it was lagged to death

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Exactly... I'm not asking that they be removed forever... I just would like SE to hold off on them until they can be sure that they will be a positive addition to the game. Function first, you know?

I wanna fight odin/behemoth but they never pop when i'm on or even near the area :/

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Originally Posted by rtpsoulx

I wanna fight odin/behemoth but they never pop when i'm on or even near the area :/

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If you were in the area... you wouldn't see them anyway.... but you WOULD see every minion in existence