Dragoon "Jump": Ranged or Melee?

I have seen endless debate about this. Here is my experience:

Jump is a Melee attack. Meaning, if I am CLEARLY (I cannot emphasize that enough) standing outside the mob's PBAoE Red Ring of Death, and activate Jump, if my character is still in the Jump animation when the enemy's castbar for it's PBAoE attack ends, my character will take damage.

I have seen several posts to the contrary, most of which citing "lag" as the issue. However, if lag were a factor, that would mean I'd be getting hit all of the time by PBAoE attacks, when I never get hit by PBAoE attacks. I can safely run out of range, use Piercing Talon etc, and be completely safe. I only get hit if I use Jump and am in the middle of the Jump animation when the enemy's PBAoE proc's.

Is there official (i.e. developer) information on the behavior of this attack? It seems useless as an ability due to the following facts:

• It does not place you into melee range at the end of the attack.
• It does not leave your "hitbox" at the starting position (i.e. like a normal ranged attack).
• It's animation lasts longer than the global cooldown.
• It locks you into the animation and prevents all other abilities for the full duration of the animation.

Is it just a broken power? How was it originally intended to be useful?

The only problem with this skill is that you still got hit while on animation. That is just about it. Dragoons should be invincible while doing any Jump Skill, period. -That is, in fact, the whole point of jump skills in the history of FF-

The skill can actually useful in certain situation.

I.e. Demon wall's repel will be denied as you return to your previous location where you used the Jump.

This also worked on Titan fight against Landslide when you take the full damage but doesn't get knocked out of the ring.
Overall I find this skill useful as a tool and a good dmg based skill as it's 200 potency + 50% from power surge which could be used after the rotation of your Full Thrust.

I would be very surprised if Dragoon's jump is considered ranged. It's been treated as melee as long as I know. I fail to even see how it is considered as ranged, when you, yourself, is jumping to the enemy, and returning back.

Piercing Talon is clearly an example of ranged attack. Jump is not.

However, I am not a big fan of how jump locks you up. Has gotten me in trouble before. :/

it is useless,longer animation than one normal skill(i cant count the number of times that i have been hit by aoe because this useless skill)and bad damage(with the 50% bonus damage it is bad damage also)
I only use it when i have tp problems because it is free and have so long animation that it give me time to regen tp.
we should be inmune while we cast jumps or the animations shloud be the double or triple fast

Jump is a mess IMO. At present it's a badass looking filler skill with zero Utility.

a) It should be a gap closer yet the Return to Origin feature prevents this. Without that "feature" we would have an ability that granted more Boss uptime and in certain situations could be used to get out of AoE by targeting adds outside the Red Circle of Death. Casters can use Sprint anytime they need to move fast but we can't afford the TP cost. Melee already have a disadvantage in these games and little things like making JUMP a maneuverability skill is the least we can ask for.

b) All JUMPS need immunity added to their effect. We have no control of our toons while the Jumping animation is active so please give Dragoons an Immunity Buff for 2.5 seconds after any JUMP skill is activated.

The big thing it's that it's a 200 Potency attack on 40s GCD with a +50% damage bonus exclusive to it (making it 300% potency a third of the time, so average 230 potency). Sure it takes a while to return to start but you can trigger it right after an attack while you're busy with GCD anyway.

Your gap closer is Spineshatter Dive, which also stuns and has a longer cooldown, similar to how the monk's Shoulder Tackle works.

Jump is basically a big damage hit off of the GCD

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Originally Posted by Zoot

Jump is a mess IMO. At present it's a badass looking filler skill with zero Utility.

a) It should be a gap closer yet the Return to Origin feature prevents this. Without that "feature" we would have an ability that granted more Boss uptime and in certain situations could be used to get out of AoE by targeting adds outside the Red Circle of Death. Casters can use Sprint anytime they need to move fast but we can't afford the TP cost. Melee already have a disadvantage in these games and little things like making JUMP a maneuverability skill is the least we can ask for.

b) All JUMPS need immunity added to their effect. We have no control of our toons while the Jumping animation is active so please give Dragoons an Immunity Buff for 2.5 seconds after any JUMP skill is activated.

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I support the immunity from one side, but from the other side.. Once PVP gets added that immunity may be pretty overpowered :/

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Originally Posted by mushashi

i cant count the number of times that i have been hit by aoe because this

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This.

10char.

Jump isn't on the GCD. You can use it to cancel the animation of Full Thrust and you do the damage of both Full Thrust and Jump while losing very little time (about 0.5 seconds at level 50). This increases our DPS Tremendously.

Yes, it screws us over if we use it poorly, but if we use it in situations where there is not going to be an AOE attack or we are safe during it (such as during enemy AOEs that are not aiming at us) then it can greatly keep us #2 on the Aggro board.

For every Dragoon GCD move, there is an equivalent ability or attack you can use in between. Internal Release, Blood for Blood, Life Break, Power Surge, Leg Sweep, Any Jump, use your abilities in between your GCD attacks and you will maximize your DPS potential.

Note: The best attacks to use Jump after for the animation cancelling effect I've noticed to be Full thrust, and actually even better -> Chaos Thrust .

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Originally Posted by Cingen

I support the immunity from one side, but from the other side.. Once PVP gets added that immunity may be pretty overpowered :/

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You'd already essentially be "immune" even with immunity, right? It would make it harder for the opposition to target you, not like NPCs which can no matter where you are. But even if that isn't the case, they said PvP will have different skill effects so immunity in PvE doesn't necessarily mean immunity in PvP. They need to fix it for PvE though as most players will probably be focusing on that more than PvP.

Gap closer + immunity please. Don't understand why things on the ground can hit me while I'm in the air.