Understanding Swiftcast

so from my understanding in the tooltip the next cast is supposed to be an instant. however after i use Swiftcast and then use something like Medica or Raise or anything that needs to be channeled. it still brings up the cast bar. the spell does not actually go instantly. the cast bar just goes very very quick. like a blink of an eye quick.

i have had several times wasted a Swiftcast use, because the spell is interrupted. what is going on here? why is Swiftcast not truly instant? why can a spell still be interrupted?

You'll have more chance to get an answer in the appropriate section no?

Maybe it's only you.

I've never seen any cast bar after Swiftcast.

I have never experienced this. Swiftcast has always granted my next spell an instant cast. Are you sure you are using Swiftcast and not Surecast?

When I use Swiftcast the next spell is instant, it might bring the casting bar but is so fast that it wont matter I can even cast Medica II while running if i'm using Swiftcast and never i have never been interupted unless paralyze have the best timing to kick right after i press the spell, which is very unlikely.

i am 100% positive it is swiftcast. it says swiftcast and it says instant. also i CAN cast while running. but still yet at times Swiftcast has been wasted cause the cast was interrupted. which shouldn't even happen. cause the spell shouldn't even be channeled. it is just so confounding. i really don't understand what is wrong this thing. maybe it is just the crap PS3. i have noticed the PS3 can sometimes lose a second. you can just stand there and put Regen on and every once in a while i see the timer skip an entire second.

maybe there is just an issue with the game on PS3. :(

I get this too, sometimes. It doesn't happen often but sometimes it'll get interrupted and you'll lose swiftcast.

I've had Swiftcast Raise been interrupted before by things smacking on me. Definitely not instant like Regen (which I can cast while running).

Playing on PC.

Swiftcast has a delay (dependent on lag) between when it actually comes up and when you've used the skill. Small but it can get in the way when trying to swiftcast something
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it happened to me also, specifically with resurrection

I got this several times too, & it's really annoying... At 1st I also thought it delayed, but then every time I cast it, I make sure to wait an entire spare second after the animation ends, but then when casting raise/res, the cast bar still shows up :\, & swiftcast gets on cooldown. No interuption cause I always make sure to get into a safe spot & no running. Really have no idea what happened...

Just SE's typical epic server-delay. I wonder if it will ever be fixed?

I Swiftcast Raise frequently, and I don't think I've ever seen a cast bar at all. The only time I ever had a swiftcast skill 'interrupted' was when another WHM Swiftcast Raised someone about a quarter second before I did. My animation started, but the Raise didn't go through because someone else had already used Raise on the dead guy. Even with this interrupted cast, though, I was still able to insta-cast Medica II immediately afterwards (the Swiftcast didn't get used up by the failed Raise), so I'm not really sure what's going on with your scenario.

i dunno either. but i have used swiftcast then have had a spell interrupted. and the stack of swiftcast was indeed consumed for that spell. have had this happen to me several times.

i think something is wrong with the game or UI. i have had even more numerous occasions where my spells were interrupted for ZERO reason. just be standing there with the target tank in front of me. tank not moving out of LoS. i am not getting hit. i don't move my character. just sometimes spells stop casting for no apparent reason.

i think the game is just broken. :(

yeah. there is certainly something wrong here. cause lol i just got Regen. and sometimes when i try to use it on someone it says it has no effect. it has even said this TWICE in a row. wasting MP like crazy too. ><

Swiftcasting "Raise" is instantaneous - you can do it while moving, and because Raise is the battle-rez, there are no additional conditions that have to be met. My question is, are the people attempting to cast the Conjurer Resurrection spell attempting to do so in combat. It's looking like only CNJs are having problems with Swiftcast.

honestly i think this is much more in-depth problem. which i really hope not. i hope it is just cause of the lacking CPU and/or GPU processing power in the PS3. as far as modern gaming goes the PS3 is kind of lacking. then you put a huge MMO on it. DCUO doesn't play at well either.

it any case there are clear signs that something is wrong. though i do not think it is the skills they themselves.

as far as the swiftcast thing goes. there seems to be either one of or multiple things going of three. either poor communication with client>server and/or server>client. causing a mismatch in visual information and such. or the actual user interface has issues causing bad reports. or simply hardware of peoples PC's and the PS3 is lacking.

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i dunno either. but i have used swiftcast then have had a spell interrupted. and the stack of swiftcast was indeed consumed for (

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chances are i may have just used the swiftcast on something else and did not notice after failing to be able to use it the first time cause of the report delay.




but still. i can attest with 100% certinty that there is something wrong somewhere. again may just be lacking hardware.


i can stand there with Regen on me. and every once in a while the counter skips an entire second.

sometimes when using Regen on other people it simply has no effect. usually occurs when the counter is down near 3 seconds remaining. this is not intended. it does not always happen even with the counter as low as 3 seconds.

I don't have swiftcast, but I understand the delay issue. If I cast Ice and then switch between umbral ice to astral fire too quickly, the game won't recognize that I even had umbral ice to begin with. I'd imagine it is the same for swiftcast.

This is just server lag.

Give it 1 second before casting your spell after swiftcast, wait until you see that "+Swiftcast" image coming up your char, and it will work

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I don't have swiftcast, but I understand the delay issue. If I cast Ice and then switch between umbral ice to astral fire too quickly, the game won't recognize that I even had umbral ice to begin with. I'd imagine it is the same for swiftcast.

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you mean Transpose has no effect? like this?

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This is just server lag.

Give it 1 second before casting your spell after swiftcast, wait until you see that "+Swiftcast" image coming up your char, and it will work

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that there be the problem. it IS there. the + swiftcast and the buff icon. it is not just server lag. and IF it is server lag then our clients are not compensating for it. allowing stuff to show visually before the server ever acknowledges it. thus when quickly executing the next skill something other then expected happens.



there is an issue somewhere. i don't know if it is network, game code based, user interface based or simply a hardware issue. but there IS an issue.

I have had this happen very often. Channel any skill with a long cast while you're moving with swiftcast, and every once in a while, one will just get interrupted somehow, and waste the buff.

Works fine for me. It's great for summons. You can also cast while running using Swiftcast.

The only thing I can think of for being interrupted is maybe a stun or paralyze?

on my end while playing this game i have had several issues with executing skills.


Regen. White Mage spell. heal over time.

sometimes when trying to refresh the counter when around 3 seconds remaining the spell has no effect. other times it works fine.


Esuna. White Mage spell. removes one negative detrimental effect.

sometimes when trying to remove poison the spell has no effect. even when the poison is half way through it's duration.



then the issues with swiftcast.


and then like you can see in my previous post issues with transpose.





the fact that there are issues with so many spells here makes it quite unlikely it is the action they themselves that be the problem.

i just hope Square Enix is aware of this. and that are trying to figure something out or are investigating it.

YOU HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE SWIFTCAST ANIMATION TO FINISH BEFORE YOU USE THE NEXT SKILL.

LOOK AT YOUR BUFF BAR. THE BUFF FROM SWIFTCAST WILL NOT APPEAR UNTIL THE CASTING ANIMATION FINISHES. IT'S THE SAME REASON WHY YOU CANNOT USE MULTIPLE INSTANT OFF-GCD SKILLS IN BETWEEN GCD SKILLS.

WAIT FOR ANIMATION TO FINISH! :cool:

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YOU HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE SWIFTCAST ANIMATION TO FINISH BEFORE YOU USE THE NEXT SKILL.

LOOK AT YOUR BUFF BAR. THE BUFF FROM SWIFTCAST WILL NOT APPEAR UNTIL THE CASTING ANIMATION FINISHES. IT'S THE SAME REASON WHY YOU CANNOT USE MULTIPLE INSTANT OFF-GCD SKILLS IN BETWEEN GCD SKILLS.

WAIT FOR ANIMATION TO FINISH! :cool:

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though the animation has not been specifically mentioned. it has been mentioned that the buff icon IS there and the + effect is also there too during the incidents. also you are completely wrong about when the buff icon appears. the buff icon appears before the animation is fully completed. the buff icon and the + effect appears instantly when you use an instant spell/skill.

also waiting for an animation to complete simply would NOT account for the mishaps with Esuna and Regen. maybe so with swiftcast and transpose. that much i can give you. but simply not with Esuna and Regen. there is no reason why i should have to use either of those multiple times for them to work.(cept esuna at certain times for multiple effects) also not to be confused as i know the topic is about Swiftcast. but of course i am not using Swiftcast for an instant spell. it just seems relevant.

okay. well i can officially rule out the need to wait for the spell animation to fully play out. i can stand in town and use Swiftcast then as fast as humanly possible use Medica. i did this for over twenty minutes. it was flawless each time.

though there are issues still when in situations under duress. now waiting a mere second after using Swiftcast avoids the issue. any player should be able to adapt and what not. this i can deal with easy. it's no problem.

HOWEVER what i can NOT deal with is Esuna and Regen.

just tonight while playing Cutter's Cry the spell Regen said has no effect THREE bleeding times in a row. this simply should not be happening. i don't know the problem. i wish i did. i at one time thought it only happened when about 3 seconds remained. but tonight it happened with 7 seconds remaining THREE times in a row.

and the Esuna. same dungeon, Cutter's Cry. failed twice in a row to remove poison.

something has to be wrong :(