MPK and griefing

Hasn't SE learned anything from FFXI? Having aoe from mobs hit anyone even if they were not engaged in the fight is a bad thing. I'm witnessing people kiting mobs that do aoe to nearby crafters or lowbies who might be afk in an attempt to interrupt their crafting or kill them. I lost HQ mats when I changed to my leatherworker to make some leather I farmed when some inconsiderate player yanked a giant frog next to me and it used its aoe and broke my synth. The same player tried it again after I farmed another skin and began crafting. This is griefing and shouldn't be part of the game mechanics.

I know the obvious answer is to move to where there's no mobs so I don't get hit by aoe, but if after I've crafted I've lost a bunch of mats it's time consuming if I have to travel far to the nearest sanctuary and back to farm more materials. I shouldn't have to escape to a sanctuary to avoid some (insert random insulting name here) kiting his mob next to me to grief me.

Or, crazy idea, don't craft near monsters <.<

Which begs the question... Why are you crafting around mobs? :x
Not to say I disagree, but if you give people an opportunity to be a dick, they'll often take it.

Does remind me of one of the funniest moments I've had in this game, though. Beating on Vanguards, one charges an attack that's only a simple straight line in front of it... Lower player comes running by on a chocobo at the absolute worst moment, and POW. XD It was such a small window to get hit in.

Actually Mazi I wasn't near monsters, I was in an area that was monster free until he kited one all the way up to me.

And while we're on this subject what about fishers who have no other choice but to fish on banks or bridges that have mobs nearby and are facing constant harrassment of players pulling mobs up to them whilst they're trying to mind their own business and getting interrupted by the aoe?

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Originally Posted by geekgirl101

Actually Mazi I wasn't near monsters, I was in an area that was monster free until he kited one all the way up to me.

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Monsters leash after a certain point so clearly you were in monster territory. Every single zone has an Aethernet reasonably close by so there is no reason to not just Tele to craft then walk back.

Pray tell me, why should I have to spend my gil using teleports to a nearby aethernet just to avoid some (insert random insulting name here) grief me when crafting? I shouldn't have to. And also read up about fishing, sometimes there's no choice of where to fish.

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Originally Posted by geekgirl101

Actually Mazi I wasn't near monsters, I was in an area that was monster free until he kited one all the way up to me.

And while we're on this subject what about fishers who have no other choice but to fish on banks or bridges that have mobs nearby and are facing constant harrassment of players pulling mobs up to them whilst they're trying to mind their own business and getting interrupted by the aoe?

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They have a stealth ability that stops monsters seeing them.
If a player is able to pull a mob to you before it gets leashed, then you're crafting in a stupid place and it isn't considered "monster free".

I have fond memories of enemies using AOE's towards farmers. I remember coming across what i thought was a bunch of bots farming around Copperbell mines for hours. I came up with a fool proof plan to discover if they were bots. I shouted, i telled, if still no answer i blew their house down with a bomb blast to the face. (See what i did there?) >: ) After that they lay there helpless until their bot commander comes along to investigate his lack of income.

This is not as amusing as when i said "Man i love Behemoth" at Revenants toll and half the people teleported out around me...two guesses why. lol I just like the Behemoth server now that i am having less issues. Or perhaps even when i click follow on newbies and tell "010010110010". I just want to say hello in 0's and 1's and for some reason they all think i am trying to hack them it is disheartening. -.-
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So you think it's ok for an innocent crafter who's been farming hard for a few skins and goes to a spot that's quiet to craft them in case they might lose some and have to farm more, to have some nearby griefer deliberately kite monsters to their spot in order to deliberately interrupt their crafting and attempt at murdering them because they find it fun? This would not have been allowed in FFXI, in fact it wasn't allowed after several people voiced their disapproval of monster aoe being used to deliberately grief and kill other players. Perhaps in a few more weeks time we'll hear plenty more of these complaints from other frustrated players who've had enough of people being like (insert random insulting name here) to them, and maybe after it's been done to you a few times yourself you'll approve of the motion to remove the aoe from hitting other people who aren't involved in the battle as I do not find it necessary, it only serves to grief and mpk.

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Originally Posted by geekgirl101

So you think it's ok...

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A word of advice from one avid crafter to another. I don't have any problem with you crafting at a nice location in fact i do it myself. Do what i do and procure a lot of the mats you will need in vast abundance and go craft at the hermits hovel in La Nosca. It is nice, secluded, peaceful, has a nice hot bath and a nice little shack with a table to cosy up in. Lets also mention the really nice view and the shrill screams of that Lallafel from time to time when the Coerls chase him which is amusing. If you craft in the shack or at the end of the bridge no monsters will bother you. It seems to be one of the forgotten beauties of the game and you should encounter little to no trouble from people. : )

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Originally Posted by geekgirl101

Hasn't SE learned anything from FFXI? Having aoe from mobs hit anyone even if they were not engaged in the fight is a bad thing. I'm witnessing people kiting mobs that do aoe to nearby crafters or lowbies who might be afk in an attempt to interrupt their crafting or kill them. I lost HQ mats when I changed to my leatherworker to make some leather I farmed when some inconsiderate player yanked a giant frog next to me and it used its aoe and broke my synth. The same player tried it again after I farmed another skin and began crafting. This is griefing and shouldn't be part of the game mechanics.

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GM call for harassment. Player gets a trip to jail. Simple fix.

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Originally Posted by Mazi

Or, crazy idea, don't craft near monsters <.<

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THIS! I accidentally killed a crafter dodging a self-destruct from a bomb just outside of Fallgourd Float and he raged at me....why are you raging at me for crafting out in the open where you KNOW there are bombs looming nearby...? Darwin award recipients out in full swing.

I had someone purposefully drag a bomb next to me while I was getting Iron outside Copperbell's entrance. Crafting in the fields can be controlled, low level gatherers not so much.

geek,don't reply to those guys,they are either just trolls,or have very little to no sympathy. sometimes even i need to stop in the middle of the forest to get the door or craft something.

there should be a thing that u cant be hurt by the monster unless u tag yourself onto it

Use the report harassment option. Not exactly sure how they would investigate it or prove that said player did indeed kite those enemies for the purpose of griefing you, but I believe it's your only option for action. Although I understand your frustration you have to come to terms with the fact that this is going to happen every now and then if you give people the opportunity.

In regards to reporting the player it may help to take screen shots of the incident and include them in a more formal complaint via the website. This will at least give them something to go on, but again its more likely than not the damage will be done and not will be done about it.

You don't have to teleport, you just have to get to a sanctuary area which are in every zone. You wanna craft where monsters are, you take the risk and it's your fault for not getting someplace safe. Stop being lazy and take the 20 seconds it takes to travel to a sanctuary. I don't see the need to sympathize for those who think "I need to craft this item RIGHT NOW!! IT CAN'T WAIT!!!" then getting pissed when something bad happens due to your inability to get someplace safe.

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Originally Posted by geekgirl101

Funny Story

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Your story was Funny. +1

if they just could make us invulnerable while crafting, all would be good.

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Originally Posted by Medura

if they just could make us invulnerable while crafting, all would be good.

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Yeah that wouldn't be broken for quests or anything... Just run a area to get to the location you want and any time you're aggroed, just start crafting. Zantetsuken from Odin? Just craft right before he casts it, no one dies. This is a horrible idea.

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Yeah that wouldn't be broken for quests or anything... Just run a area to get to the location you want and any time you're aggroed, just start crafting. Zantetsuken from Odin? Just craft right before he casts it, no one dies. This is a horrible idea.

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I was pretty sure you weren't allowed to change equipment, let alone weapons, in the middle of a battle anyway. As long as that were true, the previous suggestion would be perfectly valid.

As someone else has suggested; this could be fixed as it was in XI eons ago (I know, I know, XI, shoot me D: )

Basically - if you weren't on the mobs hate list, you wouldn't get damaged by their AoEs. I'm not sure if this was still teh case for HNM because I steered clear of that crowd xD.

That way people could run, craft, whatever they wanted to freely without getting blown up, clawed or drowned by a stray waterga.

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Originally Posted by geekgirl101

And while we're on this subject what about fishers who have no other choice but to fish on banks or bridges that have mobs nearby and are facing constant harrassment of players pulling mobs up to them whilst they're trying to mind their own business and getting interrupted by the aoe?

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I'm trying to fish up a very difficult legendary fish at Cape Westwind, which has level 48 mobs. I use my stealth ability so the mobs don't aggro me.

however, people keep "avoiding" mob attacks by moving right in my direction, which then causes the mobs attack to hit me as well cancelling my fishing and cancelling my stealth. I have to re-stealth and continue fishing.

i normally ignore it, but if somebody does it quite a few times... it gets annoying

Reminds me of when I would sub BLM on my PLD and grab a bunch of goblins and run to a camp, 2 hour, then warp to my bind point :D