Relic Classes

Hey Everyone! I had this idea originally in FFXIV 1.0 But I believe it would work just as well in ARR.

Basically it plays off of the fact that I'm sure one day we'll get Relic Armor, and the lvl limit will be raised to 75.

In FFXI the Relic Armor was basically an upgraded version of your AF gear. With the new way classes work, I believe it would be pretty neat to have "Relic Classes" as well.

How this would work is pretty simple.

Essentially its a class which goes into 2 advanced classes, and once you get 1 of those advanced classes to 50, and the other to say 35-40, you can take a quest line to become a "Relic Class".

Since PLD is my absolute favorite, I'll use this as an example.

Say I get PLD to 50, and my WHM is at 35-40. I can take a quest to become a "White Knight". The requirements would be to have a WHM Spirit, and a PLD spirit, at the designated levels, I take the quest, and become a "White Knight" Which would focus on Holy like spells, and become an even more glorified Holy Tank, like the Paladin.

Since by this time your skill bar is probably already full, you could also have it where instead of acquiring new skills, the White Knight simply "upgrades" the Paladin skills with additional boons, and buffs, enhances those skills even further. Additionally doubling the effectiveness of the "special ability" move Spirits Within.

The last 4 Quests in the Quest lines also would be quests to obtain your "Relic Armor" for your "Relic Class", which again would look different than your AF armor, and would have additional stats and modifiers as it'd be from levels 60-75.

I think this would be a pretty epic addition to FFXIV, and something that would really make the game continue onward, especially when more classes are released.

Other possible Ideas would be:

Dragoon/BLM > Dark Knight

WHM/Bard > Gypsy, or perhaps Dancer?

THF/Maur > Assassin, Or Ninja?

I'm surprised nobody has any comments

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Originally Posted by MistressAthena

I'm surprised nobody has any comments

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"If you don't have anything nice to say..."

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Originally Posted by Destain

"If you don't have anything nice to say..."

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What's that supposed to mean? It wasn't mean what I said, I was just saying I'm surprised 150 people looked at my idea and didn't have anything to say about it, whether of why it would or wouldn't work. Can I not be surprised without it being mean?

It would certainly be interesting to have an upper tier of jobs to aim for eventually.

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Originally Posted by ruskie

It would certainly be interesting to have an upper tier of jobs to aim for eventually.

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Exactly what I thought!

SMN/WAR might be more of Dark Knight, considering SMN is DoT and Maur is 2h Axe.
DRG/MNK may be THF since DRG can jump and disappear (kind of like invisible/hide, I guess).
But for advanced job, it should require 2 jobs. Just like a job requires 2 classes. The question is if it's advanced job, what happened to the old job? Advanced job implies it's supposed to be better than normal job.

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Originally Posted by nimuniverse

SMN/WAR might be more of Dark Knight, considering SMN is DoT and Maur is 2h Axe.
DRG/MNK may be THF since DRG can jump and disappear (kind of like invisible/hide, I guess).
But for advanced job, it should require 2 jobs. Just like a job requires 2 classes. The question is if it's advanced job, what happened to the old job? Advanced job implies it's supposed to be better than normal job.

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I'm not quite sure what your saying here. A job like a Gatherer or crafter? I'm not talking about those.. If your refering to the Paladin, etc. I already layed that out in the first post. I don't think you quite understood what I was saying.

This is how it would go in the end..

GLA/CNJ -> PLD Then PLD/WHM Goes into White Knight.

We already have PLD and WHM, those are the advanced classes. But you'd then combine those 2 again to make a Relic Class, of White Knight.

That's what I was saying (I was agreeing with you). Require 2 jobs to make advanced job. Job as in PLD is a job (GLD is a class). So in your case PLD/WHM (both are jobs) will become White Knight. So basically it would require 2-4 classes. GLD/CNJ to unlock PLD, CNJ/ACN to unlock WHM and PLD/WHM to unlock White Knight. But my point was if there are advanced job, then who would still play the old jobs? Everybody would be doing White Knight and not PLD or WHM depending what white knight does.

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Originally Posted by nimuniverse

That's what I was saying (I was agreeing with you). Require 2 jobs to make advanced job. Job as in PLD is a job (GLD is a class). So in your case PLD/WHM (both are jobs) will become White Knight. So basically it would require 2-4 classes. GLD/CNJ to unlock PLD, CNJ/ACN to unlock WHM and PLD/WHM to unlock White Knight. But my point was if there are advanced job, then who would still play the old jobs? Everybody would be doing White Knight and not PLD or WHM depending what white knight does.

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Oh I'm sorry, I get what your saying now.

Well there wouldn't be incentive, just like there's no incentive to play CNJ after you get WHM. or GLA after you get PLD. But it would be something to work for.

Kind of pointless to start thinking about when they'll increase the cap, that will happen in what, 18 months?

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Originally Posted by razorpakk

Kind of pointless to start thinking about when they'll increase the cap, that will happen in what, 18 months?

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It can take half that for them to decide how the Relic classes would interact with each other, what the skills would be, creating the outfits for each one and then modeling them for each race, combing in the stretch factor of sizes, and then finally creating the quest lines for each one, and lore.

I must say that the idea is very interesting but I feel it will get out of hand quickly. I've heard they want to release at least 2 jobs per class. How many relic jobs would you have per job? 1? 2? so your already talking 8 classes, so 16 jobs, and then 32 relic jobs? FFXI only hand around 20 classes total and while the game is fundamentally different I'm not sure how many more Classes could have been added to FFXI. I would like an addition like this but I don't foresee it anytime soon.

creating an relic job makes all the normal jobs obsolete? better to just add more classes/jobs.

This is actually something that Yoshi-P has talked about. http://massively.joystiq.com/2013/09...expanding-fun/

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We then asked Yoshida whether other classes will have access to multiple jobs, much as Arcanists can dabble in Summoner skills. He said that we'll probably see more of that in the future. There will likely be existing classes made able to branch off into other jobs, and he does consider it highly important to have variety and lots of flexibility in the game's class system. Also under consideration is the possibility of combining two jobs to form a third, such as White and Black Mages combining to form a Red Mage.

He also laughed and mentioned that there's a "high possibility" of new jobs debuting prior to future expansions.

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With the current Jobs, we could maybe expect things like:
WHM+BLM = Red Mage
WHM+PLD = Mystic Knight or Temple Knight (maybe then their white magic will actually do something)
WAR+BLM = Dark Knight
MNK+SMN = Geomancer
MNK+BRD = Dancer?

Hmm, can't think of any others off the top of my head, it's also been confirmed that Ninja is being added, but before they can do that they need to add the Thief class. http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/g...-Prime-13.html

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But yes, Ninja is coming. They won’t tell us when though!

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Throwing Ninja into the Mix, we could probably get:
WAR/NIN = Samurai

Would also love to see a Magitek Class added.

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Originally Posted by Sephirah

Hmm, can't think of any others off the top of my head

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I just did a simple research on google for "Final Fantasy Classes" and here's a nice list of previous existing classes/jobs from the FF series we could see in game (which are not yet implemented)

Physical Classes
Hunter
Viking
Mystic Knight
Berserker
Machinist
Gunner
Samurai
Ninja
Thief
Dark Knight

Magical Classes
Devout
Time Mage
Green Mage
Sage (Remember Tellah in FF4))
Alchemist

Mixed Classes
Red Mage
Blue Mage
Geomancer
Beastmaster
Dancer
Gambler
Mime (hard to see how a Mimic would work in game though....)

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Originally Posted by Manilas

I just did a simple research on google for "Final Fantasy Classes" and here's a nice list of previous existing classes/jobs from the FF series we could see in game (which are not yet implemented)

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Thank you for that, but I was not blanking on being unable to think of other FF classes, I was blanking on what other combinations could be made using the CURRENT jobs we have.