Tanking is hard. It's even harder when you are a first time MMOer, and only chose Gladiator because you are an FF fan, and FF games usually start you off as fighters so you assume Gladiator, as the first choosable option is new-player friendly like I did. It is apparently even harder when you play on PS3.
This game is great. I love it. It does a great job with teaching you how to play the quests, and various basic tactics. It does NOT teach you deeper party mechanics very well. I did my forth dungeon, and saw for the first time what Marking actually means. I never knew how to do it, and even from reading around these forums I thought it really only referred to who the Tank attacks first.
Are there some best practices for how to set up your controls and hot bars and in the configurations? Where can I get some first time macro help?
I'm a tank. It's the class I chose, and I don't want to switch classes just to run from it. I take it seriously and want to get better. Please help!
Tips for PS3 using newbies
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09-08-2013, 02:42 PMKeithXKTips for PS3 using newbies
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09-08-2013, 02:47 PMSephirah
I'm playing on PC but honestly I prefer using my gamepad over my keyboard. You have 8 different layouts for the crossbar that you can cycle through by hitting your right bumper. I have one of these dedicated to marks so I can switch over, mark up the targets and then engage.
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09-08-2013, 02:51 PMKeithXK
But how does one mark? Is there a command somewhere that I'm missing? Is it a macro you have to build?
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09-08-2013, 02:56 PMSephirahJust for example, if I set marks 1 2 and 3 to be button square, triangle, and circle on a ps3 controller while holding left trigger. All you need to do is target the enemy, hold down left trigger, and press square to mark it as 1. It's just like attacking, but instead of using an ability, it puts a number above their head.Quote:
Originally Posted by KeithXK
You just need to pick where you want them on your crossbar (crossbar is the area you put abilities for use on a controller http://images.wikia.com/finalfantasy...ss_Hot_Bar.jpg)
You access your marks and set them to your crossbar, hit start and cycle over, I can't remember which dropdown it's by, I think it's near emotes, I'll check when I get home and update. -
09-08-2013, 03:10 PMKeithXK
Ugh, see this is what I mean.
Of course I know the hot bar. I've added items and emotes to it. I know there can be up to 8 of them.
Is marking a command from a menu that I'm missing? Is it a dang emote? Is it a macro I have to build? If so, how does it get built?
I realize these questions may make me seem dumb. I don't care. I've never played an MMORPG before, so I don't even know where to look for things like this. Someone who has never MMOed before doesn't even know what they don't know about things like this. -
09-08-2013, 03:16 PMevilsohn
When You start a new class or character, crossbar 1 has all the combat abilities You have at start plus the porting abilities. When You press R1 it switches to crossbar 8 (because the other crossbars haven't been mapped by You yet). In this eighth crossbar You can find the menu for the marks - it's one of the abilities mapped. This takes You to a window with all the marks and lets You set them to the crossbar by selecting them and pressing square. To choose an unmapped crossbar, hold R1 and press one of the four standard buttons or the d-pad.
You can also Mark the current target You're aiming at by pressing square and choosing mark from the appearing list (although I wouldn't recommend doing so amidst the heat of battle)
As for a how-to for macros, just take a look around - I found a few helpful tutorials in this forum. -
09-08-2013, 03:25 PMKeithXK
Are you playing on PS3? Because I only had two hot bars. Combat and menus. I've created a third for common emotes. I do not have a marking one.
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09-08-2013, 03:34 PMevilsohnI play on PC, but with a PS3 gamepad and in the options You can change it so the buttons have the same icons as on PS3.Quote:
Originally Posted by KeithXK
The mark menu is hidden in the menu hotbar You mentioned.
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09-08-2013, 03:41 PMKeithXK
...hidden...
Thanks. I'll check it out tomorrow. -
09-08-2013, 03:45 PMAnubis_NephthysPS3 tank here. The mark command is sort of hidden. Target anything, and press square. Then choose "mark"; add the appropriate marks where you want them with "[] Add to Hotbar".Quote:
Originally Posted by KeithXK
I personally only use 2 marks. I have "mark 2" on my Left X. And i have a Shield Lob macro (with "mark 1" in it) on my Left [].
The macro is: /mk attack1 <t>
.................: /ac "Shield Lob"
It marks with "1" and does shield lob all in one fancy button press. :D -
09-08-2013, 04:10 PMSephirahI'm sorry if my original post wasn't clear enough. Allow me to elaborate.Quote:
Originally Posted by KeithXK
1) Press start, go to social lists, then signs
http://i.imgur.com/8za5oAG.jpg
2) Assign your marks to a hotbar
http://i.imgur.com/wuveHlx.jpg
3) Select a mob, hold down trigger
http://i.imgur.com/R8jN41O.jpg
4) Press the button you set your mark to
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09-08-2013, 11:12 PMBlindheart
How do you have that horizontal command bar and a cross hot bar? Is that PC only? After leveling 3 classes to 25, I've quickly run out of cross bar slots for all the commands I like. Being able to pull out my keyboard for lesser used, but useful skills, or this marking skill, would be very handy indeed.
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09-09-2013, 08:17 AMSephirahQuote:
Originally Posted by Blindheart
Not sure if it's only PC, but if PS3 will let you do it, just press start, go to System, then HUD Layout. Select Hotbar 1 and press (I assumed triangle since xbox controller uses Y) - If you can use a mouse, you can right-click it to do the same thing.
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09-09-2013, 08:59 AMSpoolx
I don't think ps3 can use a hot bar?
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09-09-2013, 01:54 PMAvalon_AlbrookBrotha preach. We're one in the same, friend. On PS3, never once even touched an MMO, got hooked on this thanks to the last beta, and dove head-first into Gladiator not even realizing all the implications of it. To be fair, I can't imagine wanting to do any other role besides tanking, for some reason, so it's worked out in that sense. But still, tooooooootally unprepared for the nuances, expectations, etiquette, etc. that come with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by KeithXK
It may sound lame, but as someone in your exact position, what's helped me enormously has been to go to an area with lv1-3 enemies so there's zero risk of you dying while experimenting with all of your stuff. Then, spend as much time as you need perfecting your hotbar configs and order and testing out the layouts for yourself by fighting those sissy enemies. When you have zero pressure on you and you can find a comfort zone for yourself at your own pace, it suddenly becomes so freaking easy to find your rhythm with everything -- marking, switching targets, getting aggro , etc. -- when you develop it without being under the gun in a dungeon. Hell, I still do this now, as goofy as it looks for me to be lv36 going to town on a bunch of lv1 ladybugs... -
09-09-2013, 02:42 PMKeithXKLousy daily post limit. I posted most of that early in the mornin...then couldn't respond.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephirah
Thank you SOOOO much! Info like that is exactly what I was hoping for. I also appreciate Avalon_Albrook's low level suggestions. I had begun to edit my main hot bar, and then when I received Provoke it defaulted into a new bar set instead of my combat one, so I got edit shy. -
09-26-2013, 06:18 AMOnshinn
Ah I'm learning this stuff too, and am lvl44.... I'm so immune to the bashings I get from everybody, my personality is now as thick as my armour...
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09-26-2013, 01:07 PMarkeciel
I play on PC but use PS3 controller because it's way much comfortable. Here are few tips I found throughout FFXIV forums when using PS3 controller
1. Holding (L1 or R1) + (L2 or R2): Cycles your main target through enemies, regardless of what setting you have defined for targeting filter. Tends to focus on the target closest to you. Useful when you forgot what target filter you were using in the middle of a battle.
2. Holding (L1) + (L2): Cycles through the aggroed enemies only. Useful when you want to regrab the aggro on a mob that you can't see on the current screen.
3. D-Pad <-, ->: Cycle through the enemies depending on the target filter you've set. Personally, I only set it to cycle b/w aggroed enemies when weapon is drawn.
4. D-Pad Up, Dwn: Cycle through your party members. Useful for cover.
One thing that I've set up personally was delaying the time needed to sheath/unsheath weapon after battle to the max so that I can have different target filter for the two stances. -
09-26-2013, 05:50 PMdellalol amen to thatQuote:
Originally Posted by Onshinn
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09-26-2013, 10:19 PMSoulburn32Its in the main commands I believe, you can also target someone and hit square it should bring up emote and mark, then select the mark you want and do a set to hotbar optionQuote:
Originally Posted by KeithXK
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09-27-2013, 01:24 AMUcambo
Anybody else dislike the L2 and R2 triggers on PS3? For example pressing down the triggers takes a lil time to actually get to.
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09-27-2013, 02:51 PMkasei
Although I'm playing on PC, I just made a guide for this sort of thing here.
Yeah that's why I got a new controller. My Logitech F710 works with my PS3.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ucambo