Skipping Trash...

Tanks! If you don't know how to do it then please just don't. So three times I get tanks who want to "skip" yet don't know the way to go....and also don't know what sprint is apparently. Also, no I can't heal you even if you do have the aggro when you are running.

This is not good and I hope the Devs can do something about it.

The experience of an MMO is lost when tanks can skip trash.

I had a tank skip trash in keep today and it was my first time. I did not have a chance to see the environment or how cool the stone buildings looked ;\

Please don't skip things. It's lame

Stop it.

What is lame is doing 1 raid over and over for months to get points, that SE fault, you cant blame players for getting bored after 50 runs. It is boring because there are just two of them. It is also a waste of time. So blame SE not players.
Why should i spend 1 hour to do something that gives me back the same profit in 10 minutes?

Have trash mobs drop useful stuff / gils /rewarding things, and see how people will clear the area. Atm we are at a point where most of the items from dungeons are trash because everyone is already capped. There is a very wrong game design going on here.

Can't blame you for being upset at such inexperience. People who want to skip, and is leading the spearhead for the party should know the dungeon paths at the very least...

Skipping parts of a dungeon is part of the design. If the dungeon level designer didn't want us to skip anything, then there would be barriers preventing the player to proceed until "X" mobs are killed, or "N" items are found, etc. If you don't want to party with a group that skips, then discuss it with the party. Some people would be willing to walk through every nook and cranny of a dungeon if you just ask them nicely.

There are two classes in a raid that have the most power. The healer is the first and the tank is the second. If the healer says, "Go this way," and the tank ignores him... well... the tank might not get healed. Just hope you have a sympathetic healer that wants to clear the dungeon when the tank starts skipping trash.

If you say don't skip it, whats the real purpose of fighting it all? ? Don't get gil, don't get seals, dont get exp, dont get increased item drop rate, then trash doesn't get to die.

I thought the issue was that you take more gear durability loss by clearing trash than actually skipping it and dying three times? Although I guess that is compounded by only two end game dungeons (that reward adequately) and the amount of time they actually require to do normally.

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Originally Posted by Destinova

If you say don't skip it, whats the real purpose of fighting it all? ? Don't get gil, don't get seals, dont get exp, dont get increased item drop rate, then trash doesn't get to die.

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If you're lvl 50 running a lvl 50 dungeon, you're usually after tomes and the treasure coffins. I go with whatever they want, it's not my position to complain.

In all honesty, their really isn't any reason to fight the mobs as you don't really gain much benefit from it and the game punishes you for even attempting to hit them. So skipping them at max lvl is the most optimal way for clearing those dungeons with minimal penalties.

if people were at least going to teach newcomers to do so, it would be so much better :B

I speed run everything I can, even though I think it is lame, there is no reason to do otherwise. I usually brief the group on exactly what is going down before I do something though.

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Originally Posted by DarkB

What is lame is doing 1 raid over and over for months to get points, that SE fault, you cant blame players for getting bored after 50 runs. It is boring because there are just two of them. It is also a waste of time. So blame SE not players.
Why should i spend 1 hour to do something that gives me back the same profit in 10 minutes?

Have trash mobs drop useful stuff / gils /rewarding things, and see how people will clear the area. Atm we are at a point where most of the items from dungeons are trash because everyone is already capped. There is a very wrong game design going on here.

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Rushers put themselves in this spot by skipping through the game like they do the trash in these dugneons. Legacy players probably don't need to spam these because most of them have the gear obtained from skipping trash. In the future take your time with the time sink you bought from the store. Get some single player games if you don't like it.

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Originally Posted by Ron_Burgundy

Rushers put themselves in this spot by skipping through the game like they do the trash in these dugneons. Legacy players probably don't need to spam these because most of them have the gear obtained from skipping trash. In the future take your time with the time sink you bought from the store. Get some single player games if you don't like it.

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Don't think the time sink portion is efficient until the punishing gil sink is dealt with.

+1 OP

One time we died about 5 times in WP before the first boss because the tank didn't know how to do it, then people started to leave.

SE should just make trash drop some gil.

If there is a new player and you want to skip trash... I would rather just not do the dungeon with you. If you want to skip with people you run with all the time or ALL members are farming fine makes sense, but let people have 1 true experiance

This WHOLE game is about skipping trash.

Why do you think there are FATEs/Hunting Logs/Quests instead of XP Parties?

Yoshida deemed killing trash mobs as unacceptable and has purposely introduced as many methods as he could to avoid it. He's written pages about the topic. So its laughable if you think some 'DEV' is going to swoop in and make killing trash mobs viable again.

Why is there no open world parties for XP gain anymore? Yoshida hates trash mobs. hates.

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Originally Posted by Quesse

This WHOLE game is about skipping trash.

Why do you think there are FATEs/Hunting Logs/Quests instead of XP Parties?

Yoshida deemed killing trash mobs as unacceptable and has purposely introduced as many methods as he could to avoid it. He's written pages about the topic. So its laughable if you think some 'DEV' is going to swoop in and make killing trash mobs viable again.

Why is there no open world parties for XP gain anymore? Yoshida hates trash mobs. hates.

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If that's really the case, why does trash exist then? If he hates it so much, why not just take it out and put bosses in their own little rooms that you just go from one to the next?

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Originally Posted by Ron_Burgundy

Rushers put themselves in this spot by skipping through the game like they do the trash in these dugneons. Legacy players probably don't need to spam these because most of them have the gear obtained from skipping trash. In the future take your time with the time sink you bought from the store. Get some single player games if you don't like it.

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Not understanding what you mean. I'm a legacy player and i've done them the normal way untill a point where it was just a waste of time, and we always run them now because of the points.

This whole line makes no sense " In the future take your time with the time sink you bought from the store. Get some single player games if you don't like it."

English please?

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Originally Posted by Scrubbs

If that's really the case, why does trash exist then? If he hates it so much, why not just take it out and put bosses in their own little rooms that you just go from one to the next?

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This, why didnt they do it the way The Secret World did? Minimal trash and great bosses.