Shadow Bind (What's the point)

There's no point in using shadow bind, it last a second or two. There's also the fact that all mobs have ranged attacks most having a longer range then archer attacks sadly.

It only lasts a second or two because you keep attacking the mob.

The bind is erased when the mob gets damaged.

lol i never knew that. i still dont equip it anyways alot of people dont

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Originally Posted by Danniedeadboy

lol i never knew that. i still dont equip it anyways alot of people dont

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Well, then you're missing out on a very powerful skill.

Good damage to TP ratio, and a great tool when soloing, or when doing the "pursue" leves when the leve mob runs away.

I use Shadow Bind and Shock Spikes together to help me kite mobs and take them down. I'm finding it very effective so far. Granted, I'm only rank 20 and I don't solo often, but it's great when I do.

Stun lock? The last time I used it was when I was getting beat down and wanted to make a quick get a way ｡◕ ‿ ◕｡

There isn't much of a point, lol.

The skill purpose is only one: Bind enemy so that you can run away.

Otherwise it plain sucks, don't get me wrong..the damage is pretty decent..but the stamina consumption is pretty high, definitely not worth. There are better skills to spend your points on, and supposing you play in parties a lot, you don't really have to bother.

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Originally Posted by Griever

There isn't much of a point, lol.

The skill purpose is only one: Bind enemy so that you can run away.

Otherwise it plain sucks, don't get me wrong..the damage is pretty decent..but the stamina consumption is pretty high, definitely not worth. There are better skills to spend your points on, and supposing you play in parties a lot, you don't really have to bother.

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Bolded for emphasis. Shadowbind is a solo utility skill; it has virtually no use in parties except stopping fleeing levelquest targets.

I play almost exclusively solo and I keep Shadowbind on hand all the time. Aside from using it against fleeing levequest targets it's also great for putting distance between yourself and an enemy for damage mitigation and to set up a powerful Multishot (boosted, of course) to WS combo, or re-buff, or heal, or any other thing you may need to do mid-fight.

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Originally Posted by Erwing

Bolded for emphasis. Shadowbind is a solo utility skill; it has virtually no use in parties except stopping fleeing levelquest targets.

I play almost exclusively solo and I keep Shadowbind on hand all the time. Aside from using it against fleeing levequest targets it's also great for putting distance between yourself and an enemy for damage mitigation and to set up a powerful Multishot (boosted, of course) to WS combo, or re-buff, or heal, or any other thing you may need to do mid-fight.

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I personally hope they make this skill more beneficial/useful after the battle changes, but at this point once you rise above 30 and have Multi-Shot/Trifurcate, it becomes rare that the mob reaches you before dying, so Shadowbind does indeed become useless, even playing solo. Trust me, Archer was my very first 50 and the one I generally play with/plan to rank once cap is raised, and after 30 once I started doing leves in Broken Water I have not used Shadowbind since, however early on it is an amazing skill to utilize.

Ummm I use it in smaller parties when there are 2 or 3 strong mobs. I shadow bind the one we aren't attacking so we don't take more damage than needed. Just because you can't use it to its full effects or don't talk with your party doesn't mean it's a useless skill.

I'm only lvl 30, and still consider myself fairly new to the game, but my experience thusfar with shadowbind has been pretty positive. I mostly solo, so I use it if I need to pull back from the mob and heal up.

As long as every stupid Mob in the game has a ranged attack, Shadowbind is just a wasted skill. It will never ever have the strategic value it had in XI, if all mobs will have ranged attacks forever.

I find heavy trammel helpful when kitting aswell. Heavy make the mobs move slower, so after i knock up arrows and let them fly ill que up heavy trammel.

Saying that every mob in the game has a ranged attack is missing the point; most mobs' ranged attacks are much weaker and a lot slower (i.e. they don't attack nearly as often) than their melee attacks.

When solo, Shadowbind allows you to bind the mob, back off while it spams its ineffective ranged attacks so you can heal up, nock three arrows, and (of nearly the most importance) wait out the Shadowbind recast. The TP cost on Shadowbind is so incredibly low that you can practically loop Multishot and Shadowbind on anything you're having problems with, as long as the bind lands.

Even in a party, Shadowbind has the best damage/TP ratio of any WS Archer can use. The only drawbacks to it are the long recast and the huge stamina cost, but if you are in a situation where you have stamina to burn, Shadowbind is an extremely useful tool.

Completely agree with Spider-Dan. I use Shadowbind as a rank 30 Archer to stop rank 40 and up mobs. Because of Shadowbind, I was able to take Skeleton Swordbearers at rank 36 when I was 28 solo.

When in a party, Shadowbind can be used to incapacitate one mob while you strike down another (though this can be difficult to pull off with the current targeting system.) Me and my friend use a combo of Shadowbind and Repose to stop mob groups, allowing us to do higher quests without a tank.

I also place shadowbind as one of my preferred ws. The dmg is decent enough, and the bind is very useful if used properly. As for how long it lasts, as long as you DO NOT hit the target again, it will last long enough to buff and heal sometimes. (On the Prince of Pestilence, it lasted long enough for the recast timer to reset.)

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Originally Posted by Spider-Dan

Saying that every mob in the game has a ranged attack is missing the point; most mobs' ranged attacks are much weaker and a lot slower (i.e. they don't attack nearly as often) than their melee attacks.

When solo, Shadowbind allows you to bind the mob, back off while it spams its ineffective ranged attacks so you can heal up, nock three arrows, and (of nearly the most importance) wait out the Shadowbind recast. The TP cost on Shadowbind is so incredibly low that you can practically loop Multishot and Shadowbind on anything you're having problems with, as long as the bind lands.

Even in a party, Shadowbind has the best damage/TP ratio of any WS Archer can use. The only drawbacks to it are the long recast and the huge stamina cost, but if you are in a situation where you have stamina to burn, Shadowbind is an extremely useful tool.

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QFT. I was under the impression that by the time you received Shadowbind, you were aware of your ability to do this. Archer burst damage is ridiculous after you get multi-shot. Shadowbind allows you to burst one target twice in one battle as well as heal up if you need to... all at the same time. It's the one skill I never forget to put on my bar. Arrow Helix, on the other hand...

useless when all mobs have ranged attack... so what's the advantage of "Bind"ing

Lol, in my opinion, Shadowbind is an Archer's bestfriend, Solo or non solo, Levequest or NM hunting you will need it in any run.

Only Hardcore Archers or Archer lovers knows that majority of Archer skills are useful in any situation. Lazy bums never bother to test, play or figure out if a skill is useful or not, for them its all about what skill deals the most damage.

for CC , yup lots of mobs have ranged skills ...............

and i remember in FFXI , some god (the tiger? or raptor? ) , was used to run away from him :D , in partys was used for CC melee mobs , or run away ....

a root is a root

Well, shadowbind here is a WS...ppl seems to only think about the FFXI one, which is not the case. As a 250TP WS its awesome for finishing mobs and to hold those that atempt to flee. Its bind seems to last over 30 sec if the mob is untouched, which is very nice! ^^

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Originally Posted by Warlyx

and i remember in FFXI , some god (the tiger? or raptor? ) , was used to run away from him :D , in partys was used for CC melee mobs , or run away ....

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I assume you're talking about Seiryu and Suzaku. People would Shadowbind them and then run out of Suzaku's casting range during Chainspell, and get away from Seiryu during Hundred Fists. Shadowbind is frequently used to mitigate Hundred Fists.