Refund 1.0 Relic players

Spending 9 Hamlet seals/Hours of farming beastmen coins/Spirtbonding relic/doing speed runs/double melding relic/Doing Ifrit Extreme all was for nothing and got completely dumbed down. Players that didn't spend hamlet seals got 100 points for each for Darklight gear.

So.. Can we get are Hamlet seals/Beastmen Coins back since you removed it completely from ARR. Will need those 900 points anyway from selling those hamlet seals to finish the last requirement of the first relic quest.

Just wish they refund the players that did it the hard mode. Took me 3-4 weeks toget 8 Hamlet seals and SE said they were not gonna change the relic quest until after few months later when 1.0 was offline.

Now need to farm another 900 points just to finish off my relic...

I feel your pain I do, but getting 900 seals takes no time at all. As easy as 9 Runs. thats 1 day of farming if you got a solid group. So the realty of the matter is... it's much eaiser. \

I new about this way early. It's why I never wasted my time to on it to begin with. Well, you can say you have them when they were hard to get. That's an accomplishment in itself that no one can ever get again.

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Originally Posted by UllrHellfire

I feel your pain I do, but getting 900 seals takes no time at all. As easy as 9 Runs. thats 1 day of farming if you got a solid group. So the realty of the matter is... it's much eaiser. \

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Last Dungeon takes awhile with pickup groups toget 100pts. Working on Amo.. Keep for 80/40pts so ill have +1 relic by the time I have 900pts. Still I could use the points to buy Coke or other stuff to start up a new relic or buy some darklight. As of the Beastmen coins... is there anything in the game right now that uses them? I don't think I see beastmen drop them anymore.. could be wrong.

Either way think refund is in order. Since we got our Beastmen Keyitem for 25k Company Seals for relic why not the other stuff. Isn't that tough to put in the refund either. Having Relic Quest in 1.0 history gives you 9 hamlet seals or 900pts. Having beastmen coin quest completely gives you 100 HQ Beastcoins.
Spiritbonding Relic gives you 5 VI Cracked Materia. Completing Ifrit Extreme gives you completion for first part of the quest for +2 Relic Quest.

Why do you even care if you had to spend a little longer in 1.0? What's done in 1.0 is done.

Looking for compensation lol..

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Originally Posted by Venat

Spending 9 Hamlet seals/Hours of farming beastmen coins/Spirtbonding relic/doing speed runs/double melding relic/Doing Ifrit Extreme all was for nothing and got completely dumbed down. Players that didn't spend hamlet seals got 100 points for each for Darklight gear.

So.. Can we get are Hamlet seals/Beastmen Coins back since you removed it completely from ARR. Will need those 900 points anyway from selling those hamlet seals to finish the last requirement of the first relic quest.

Just wish they refund the players that did it the hard mode. Took me 3-4 weeks toget 8 Hamlet seals and SE said they were not gonna change the relic quest until after few months later when 1.0 was offline.

Now need to farm another 900 points just to finish off my relic...

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Just like with the AF, the reason the relic quest is much easier is because there is a better version available that requires more effort.

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Originally Posted by Luda

Why do you even care if you had to spend a little longer in 1.0? What's done in 1.0 is done.

Looking for compensation lol..

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Exactly.. I got my 9 hamlet seals. Give me 900pts. Don't have to redo content that I should do twice. Whats done is done.

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

Just like with the AF, the reason the relic quest is much easier is because there is a better version available that requires more effort.

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That doesn't make sense. In 1.0 AF was earned by grouping up and in 2.0 its all Solo. How is that more effort to do? All you do in 2.0 is spam 1 dungeon 10 times and do some glitched out boss battles toget your relic and some reg summon fights. In 1.0 was more grindfest and noone wanted to farm Militia Gear, Beastmen Coins, Hamlet Seals, Dungeon Speedruns, Garuda w/o any deaths, Ifrit Extreme, Spirintbond for full day or two, Farm for Class only Weapons and risk breaking them with double meld.

Because its so easy toget now its probably not gonna be considered a Relic Weapon anymore.

Even Golden tools are useless now since they released same kinda tools with same stats that take only 10mins-7 hours toget by doing Class Quests.

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That doesn't make sense.

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You didn't read the post. The AF was made easier because there is now a better version avialable that requires considerably more effort.

The relic weapons are easier because there is a better version of them now that requires considerably more effort.

In other words, like I said in my post, the situation with relic weapons is similar to the situation with AF: New AF made available, old AF made easier. Relic upgrades made available, initial relic quest made easier.

Whenever they release a new something, the old somethings are usually made easier. This is a simple reality of all MMOs.

If you can't accept the fact that older content generally becomes easier as an MMO ages, then you're playing the wrong genre.

Hahahahaha. No. Welcome to the new age.

Its a new game not the old game so asking for compensation is kind of dumb if you ask me. Its like saying since I played the entire ffseries plus all spin off I deserve free items. Games don't work that way. Put the same hard work into this game as you did last one and make your new items.

I opened this thread and got smacked in the face with a whole lot of whining. You got enough compensation as 1.0 players as it is, stop finding the need for compensation for everything under the sun. It's 2.0, come to accept that.

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

You didn't read the post. The AF was made easier because there is now a better version avialable that requires considerably more effort.

The relic weapons are easier because there is a better version of them now that requires considerably more effort.

In other words, like I said in my post, the situation with relic weapons is similar to the situation with AF: New AF made available, old AF made easier. Relic upgrades made available, initial relic quest made easier.

Whenever they release a new something, the old somethings are usually made easier. This is a simple reality of all MMOs.

If you can't accept the fact that older content generally becomes easier as an MMO ages, then you're playing the wrong genre.

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I just hope the new weapons and armor last for a while. Because I think it's way too early to have that kind of power creep happening already. o_O

Yoshida specifically said he made the game easier from 1 - 50 already. So no compensation for you. Suck it up. Geez.

In short, No, you should not be compensated for your 1.0 Relic.

There's been plenty of MMOs in the past that as years have gone by, certain "status" or "luxury" items/mounts/equips became easier and cheaper to attain. To name, World of Warcraft, which the ARR team took inspiration from, drastically reduced the required gold to purchase Epic mounts, both ground and flying.

Did they hand out gold to those that had originally paid 500g / 5000g for their mounts? Nope.

And you'll find the same case here.

1 seal = 100 tombstones

Current relics require an item that cost 900 tombstones, it seems pretty even to me in that sense. Sure seals took more time to get, but we knew coming in that things were going to be easier.

If you had the best gear in 1.0, why is it so hard to get it again in 2.0? No one I knew complained, we just dug in and grinded content. Same old business.

Whining on these forums is just asking to get flamed.

You got a huge headstart coming into the game as a relic owner, especially if you acquired multiple relics. I'd say that's a good enough reward in itself.

Not sure what to do with this g4 mind materia double-melded Alkaurops. SE, have I wasted my time having made this for relics in 1.0, or can I exchange it for the properly melded madman staff now used in the relic quest?