warrior needs help

so i'm a lvl 44 warrior, I don't ever have a problem with threat. so last night I did guradia or however you spell her name, and my healer buddy told me that I am much hard to heal then a pally.

at 44 I have 3780 hp most my gear is quest line gear and I always go for the most defense. I put mist my skill points in strength for the parry and i'm starting to think that was wrong.

any way what gear should I be in as a 44-46 warrior and are you guys going STR or VIT.

Paladins have a lot of damage mitigation (defense). Wars do not. Wars savior is having a lot of HP. The more HP base you have the more hp you get from you bonus abilities because they work on a percentage.

Yes, strength is important. But upping that base vit score will help keep you alive longer for sure. I've read that one strategy is to put all your points in Vit and then use Material to boost Str. I have no idea if that is the right way to go or not.

Personally I'm going about half and half. I think there is an item that can reset your points. Can't recall what its called or what it costs.

ok I might need to buy the book and re stat cause I have like 14 points in str. what is this legacy gear I hear about? I still have a couple lvl 38 pieces

Yikes! Yeah you need to put points into VIT. But try to purchase some Materia for VIT and wear HQ Accessories for VIT. That will help make up for it.

VIT increases your max HP. 3780 is pretty low for a WAR. Are you using Defiance? Defiance will increase your Max HP, also Thrill of Battle Will increase your max HP even more for 10s in a pinch, when you know you're about to get hit hard. Building Wrath by using combos will help increase the effects of heals on you as well as Convalesce and maybe Second wind for a small heal if you've leveled MNK any.

Strength should not be neglected. Your self healing capabilities depend on STR and Skill speed and Accuracy because you're healed by the blows you hit and how hard you hit, but from now on, you need to focus on strengthening your VIT pool.

44-46 you need to be wearing your AF gear. Fighter's Gear. There's nothing better at that stage. You obtain it from your Class Quests. After that, you need to be running Aurum Vale for gear. Actually go to your GC and use your seals. Even better.

Just curious were you avoiding her slipstream cast? She stands still while casting and you can run through her to avoid being hit (makes tank healing a TON easier for the healer). Also there is no red mark for this attack so you literally have to watch Garuda to see if she`s casting slipstream. I tanked this as a warrior and didn`t have much issue, we wiped 2x while learning the fight and got it on our third attempt. Also make sure people are spread out far enough from each other and the stone pillars (you don`t want them to take damage) and that you (the tank) use the limit break if needed.

As for my stats I went for a bit more stam then str.

Is there an understood ratio of str vs vit when it comes to bonus points for a war? I've been dumping all my points into vit so far.

People are still arguing over vit vs str i put mine into Vit and you have the same health pool.

2 as some one else said when she starts casting slipstream move just move away it hurts and will kill you.

3 when he does hit you with downblast (about 900 damage) use innerbeast and save your inner beast for when you get hit with things like that dont just use it randomly its best when combined with spike damage and warth at 5 stacks gives 15% extra healing.


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thats my hero most into vit some into strength just did her last night it takes a few tries so dont be afraid after you die a few times (we were spent 30 minutes taking her down) had a scholor, BLM DRG and me.

but yeh avoid slipstream

ok so grand company gear that's my plan

Paladin and Warrior damage mitigation is exactly the same. Paladins do not have more defense than Warriors. A shield does not add defense, only adds the possibility to block. Instead of blocking Warriors were given the ability to self heal which can be viewed as a form of damage mitigation just like blocking. Bloodbath has a 33% up time, Inner Beast, and Storm's Path both heal. Warriors also have the ability to use certain Pugilist abilities, if you haven't already done so level PUG to 8 and get Feather Foot and Second Wind. Feather Foot is 15% evasion and a dodge is 100% damage mitigation. Second Wind fits nicely with the WAR kit. A great "Oh Sh*t!" combo is Convalescence + Thrill of Battle + Second Wind + Potion.

As mentioned above VIT is very important. There is crafted jewellery/braclet that add to VIT and Parry which are both great tank stats.

Grand Company Weapon and Jewelry and AF Gear will take you right to 50 and through Ifrit (HARD) but beyond that you'll need Amdapor gear and Primal Weapons.

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Originally Posted by Lailis

Just curious were you avoiding her slipstream cast? She stands still while casting and you can run through her to avoid being hit (makes tank healing a TON easier for the healer). Also there is no red mark for this attack so you literally have to watch Garuda to see if she`s casting slipstream. I tanked this as a warrior and didn`t have much issue, we wiped 2x while learning the fight and got it on our third attempt. Also make sure people are spread out far enough from each other and the stone pillars (you don`t want them to take damage) and that you (the tank) use the limit break if needed.

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yeah I avoided almost every slip stream got caught by a couple due to lag but recovered with cool downs. our MT palidan came in after it was to late for me (I gotta sleep some time) and I heard my white mage buddy comment on how much easier it was to heal him, he said bad just doesn't have the HP pool yet and i'm in legacy gear.

I built up my Defiance's Wrath stacks and only spent them on Inner Beast after being hit by Downblast. Slipstream you can straight up dodge to avoid up to around 1.5k damage plus an annoying stun. Don't forget to use Cross class skills like Convalescence and Second Wind to make your healer's task a little easier.

I just tanked her yesterday in a PUG, didn't have much issues on the tanking part.
Wiped a few times because the DDs like to stand near the pillars 24/7...

I saved my Wrath for Inner Beast and Steel Cyclone.
I only used Steel Cyclone when she summons the adds for the first two times because they're all grouped together before they go for the pillars.
Dodge her Slipstream and you should have no problem tanking her.

And yeah, try to get to level 45 and get the AF gear first, I was using the level 42 GC weapon as well.

yeah go VIT and learn the fight. know when damage is coming your way and prepair by either popping a CD or waiting to use inner beast right after it hits.

She has a few abilitys that can be dodge all to gether. i cant remeber the name of it but, on the first phase its the only attack she does that has a cast bar. just run through her and then back to your original spot when shes done casting. its a SUPER heavy attack and can be dodged just by getting out of the way. I have noticed there is no red box for said attack. seems to be a cone.

that being said, you gotta trust in your healer and trust in your self heals. help the healer as much as possible by rotating cool downs. communicate when your going to use inner beast if possible. Over all its a tough fight but can be done for sure.

People keep saying warrior heals are based on a percentage of max health... that is not true.. They have one heal that is based on max HP( Thrill of battle ), ALL the others (Bloodbath, second wind, inner beast , and storm's path) are based on attack power/damage output. I for one put all my points in str and had no problem tanking that primal, you just need to know when to use your heals and when to move to avoid skills. If you want to make life easier on the healer having more damage out put (making fights shorter as well as more self-healing) will save them more mana in the long run. Oh and having more str also increases the amount of damage you mitigate when you parry.

Hmm, paladin definitely take less damage than Warrior at high level. xivdb.com and look up paladin skills. Big one is Shield Oath: Reduces damage received by 20%, while lowering damage dealt by 20% and increasing enmity. It's an "always on", like Defiance. Then you have all the extra cooldown ones: Sentinal, Rampart, Bulwark, Hallowed Ground. And the blocks from shield. All put together I expect pally to take a lot less damage.

What warrior does is higher HP and heal themselves somewhat. In a way, it sort of evens out. But it'll be like pally very steady life bar, while warrior goes up and down a lot.

As for Str vs. Vit, I'm full Vit at the moment. It adds 17 HP per vit (510 HP for full VIT at lvl 50). That's roughly 8% of total HP for me currently. I don't really know what % of total damage 30 Str would add. If it's 5% or more, I might go Str instead. But I'm guessing it'll be less than that.

As an "average" warrior, you should be able to tank Garuda and everything else up at least as far as Amdapor Keep. Maybe even all the way up, but I haven't been there yet to say. Think of warrior as the "hard mode" of tank: you're a bit harder to heal, but you bring more DPS to the table. And it's not *that* bad on the healing. I prefer Warrior so far for those reasons.

I'm a MNK lurking here in your forumz for God knows why, so I don't know what I'm talking about, but I'd stack STR because:

• VIT only increases HP
• 8% more HP in the end game, while nice, feels relatively minor (especially as you get better gear and more HP this % will only decrease), whereas...

Strength plays into a WAR's mitigation and usefulness in several ways!

• STR determines the damage mitigated when you parry. This becomes meaningful with Foresight.
• STR determines your self heal, which is WAR's version of mitigation.
• STR makes you hit harder, contributing to your enmity and your contribution to DPS races.

I'd also like to add that however you distributed your points via STR/VIT, you can always compensate with gear and materia.

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Originally Posted by Pike_Iridae

Paladins have a lot of damage mitigation (defense). Wars do not. Wars savior is having a lot of HP.

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No. This hurts my head so much...just no.

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Originally Posted by kataly

• VIT only increases HP
• 8% more HP in the end game, while nice, feels relatively minor (especially as you get better gear and more HP this % will only decrease), whereas...

Strength plays into a WAR's mitigation and usefulness in several ways!

• STR determines the damage mitigated when you parry. This becomes meaningful with Foresight.
• STR determines your self heal, which is WAR's version of mitigation.
• STR makes you hit harder, contributing to your enmity and your contribution to DPS races.

I'd also like to add that however you distributed your points via STR/VIT, you can always compensate with gear and materia.

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That's great and all but Parry boosts and bonuses only apply IF you parry, I personally prefer to have a larger HP pool to sponge those hits. Defiance gives us a 25% HP increase and that is nothing to turn your nose up at.