Skipped over in the Queue

I have been trying to log after getting kicked and keep getting the 1017 message so I keep trying. Finally I get the queue message says "68 people" so I'm thinking cool I'm getting in soon. I try 2 more times and then I start getting the 1017 message again and haven't got in. What happening I get skipped over or pushed out of the queue or something?

EXACTLY the same as me! Why is this even happening? It's a queue, right? Isn't the point of a queue that you stay in line til you can get in? So why then are we getting skipped over in the queue? It's complete BS.

same here, when the full world appeared after the queue i wanted to destroy my pc... >.> SE is trolling us badly

When u see the queue come up are u backing out and trying again?

Nope. We're doing the usual thing of waiting in line, sat back at our desks, and/or (for PS3 users) putting the controller to one side. The problem most definitely is people ARE being booted from the queues.

I have been booted repeatedly from queues. I wouldn't be surprised if people were writing scripts to bypass the queues

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Originally Posted by Alousolu

I have been trying to log after getting kicked and keep getting the 1017 message so I keep trying. Finally I get the queue message says "68 people" so I'm thinking cool I'm getting in soon. I try 2 more times and then I start getting the 1017 message again and haven't got in. What happening I get skipped over or pushed out of the queue or something?

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The way you worded this seems to imply that upon getting the message that there is 68 people in queue, you are closing that message and trying to log in again. If that is the case then you are leaving the queue. When you end up getting the queue message, do not close it and just wait, it will refresh itself automatically and you will get in (or not, sometimes it will still 1017 you but it at least FEELS like odds are better).

Yeah, I read it that when he got the queue he closed it and tried again only to get the 1017 error. That's bad.

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Originally Posted by Alousolu

I have been trying to log after getting kicked and keep getting the 1017 message so I keep trying. Finally I get the queue message says "68 people" so I'm thinking cool I'm getting in soon. I try 2 more times and then I start getting the 1017 message again and haven't got in. What happening I get skipped over or pushed out of the queue or something?

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ok this is what happens 3 things you need to know.

There is an artificial cap they put in place on the servers which is lower then the actual cap of the server.
They use the Queue system to control the flow of people logging in to the server.
They turn on and off the queue system as needed to control this flow.

So what happens you try and log in... server is at artificial cap. You get 1017. All of a sudden a bunch of people log out and the server is blow the threshold of the artificial cap. So they turn on the queue system. So now 100 people in queue. Say the first 50 of the bring the server back up to that artificial cap. the other 50 then get booted out of the queue and get 1017 when the system shuts off the queue.

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To prevent this from happening, we felt that the safest course of action would be to limit logins. However, we would like you to know that the restrictions are under constant surveillance. We are currently monitoring login numbers on all Worlds 24 hours a day, and actively removing/applying restrictions as soon as we detect even the smallest fluctuation in concurrent connection numbers.

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Well every other time I have seen that I have hit ok tried to log in again and then the number has gone down, I''m on PS3 I don't think it auto refreshes.

Edit: To clarify I'm not sure how the PC logging in works but on the PS3 when you get he 1017 it takes you back to the start/opening movie screen. If you get the queue message it takes you to the character select screen. When I get the queue message I just hit ok and select my char again to try to log in again i don't ever back out of the character select screen.

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Originally Posted by Mailstrum

ok this is what happens 3 things you need to know.

There is an artificial cap they put in place on the servers which is lower then the actual cap of the server.
They use the Queue system to control the flow of people logging in to the server.
They turn on and off the queue system as needed to control this flow.

So what happens you try and log in... server is at artificial cap. You get 1017. All of a sudden a bunch of people log out and the server is blow the threshold of the artificial cap. So they turn on the queue system. So now 100 people in queue. Say the first 50 of the bring the server back up to that artificial cap. the other 50 then get booted out of the queue and get 1017 when the system shuts off the queue.

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Kind of pointless having a queue if it's still going to be a free-for-all at the end of it.

My normal reaction to the login queues only to get the error anyways.

http://static.fjcdn.com/gifs/Hahaha_a2221c_724334.gif

TL;DR the queue system is broken and doesn't actually work like a queue at all.

Tried it on PC and on PS3. The result is always the same, be that with 16 people, 50 people, or indeed 250 odd people.

If anyone is wondering whether we are clicking through by accident, see below. We're not.

http://www.youtube.com/edit?ns=1&o=U...id=43S_4DfvcFA

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Originally Posted by Alousolu

Well every other time I have seen that I have hit ok tried to log in again and then the number has gone down, I''m on PS3 I don't think it auto refreshes.

Edit: To clarify I'm not sure how the PC logging in works but on the PS3 when you get he 1017 it takes you back to the start/opening movie screen. If you get the queue message it takes you to the character select screen. When I get the queue message I just hit ok and select my char again to try to log in again i don't ever back out of the character select screen.

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Sounds just like the PC version, and when you get that box that says the queue, I'm pretty sure the button for it also says 'ok'. I know it's a little confusing, but clicking that is akin to leaving the queue. You aren't supposed to try to login again after you get to that message, just let it sit on that and watch it, it should eventually update (decreasing the queue line) until it logs you in.

See the video I posted above Rurushan. It's definitely happening whether we press anything or not.

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Originally Posted by BlossomRose

TL;DR the queue system is broken and doesn't actually work like a queue at all.

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ok this is what happens 3 things you need to know.

There is an artificial cap they put in place on the servers which is lower then the actual cap of the server.
They use the Queue system to control the flow of people logging in to the server.
They turn on and off the queue system as needed to control this flow.

So what happens you try and log in... server is at artificial cap. You get 1017. All of a sudden a bunch of people log out and the server is blow the threshold of the artificial cap. So they turn on the queue system. So now 100 people in queue. Say the first 50 of the bring the server back up to that artificial cap. the other 50 then get booted out of the queue and get 1017 when the system shuts off the queue.

it works just fine THEY ARE MANUALLY CONTROLLING IT TURNING IT ON AND OFF GET THAT THROUGH YOUR HEAD!

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Originally Posted by Alousolu

Well every other time I have seen that I have hit ok tried to log in again and then the number has gone down, I''m on PS3 I don't think it auto refreshes.

Edit: To clarify I'm not sure how the PC logging in works but on the PS3 when you get he 1017 it takes you back to the start/opening movie screen. If you get the queue message it takes you to the character select screen. When I get the queue message I just hit ok and select my char again to try to log in again i don't ever back out of the character select screen.

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When you see the queue message do not close it. I am on PC, I have never seen the number update on the queue, but when I wait with that queue open I have always ended up getting in (After the 30+ min of trying to get in past the 1017 of course). I know I've heard people have other issues queue leading to a 1017, but it's best to wait for the queue if you see it, just for the chance you might get in. Closing it to try get get in the queue again will never end well. You just push yourself back until 1017.

Yea I dont have the PS3 version..but it sounds like its displayed like the PC.

When you see the message saying "You are number 70 in queue" or something of that sort, dont touch ANYTHING.

It wont auto refresh. It wont auto update.

It will say 70 until 69 people log in and you see the loading screen..which you may be greeted with a lobby error or 1017 after anyway but i digress.

Basically when you see that message DO NOTHING. Its worded horribly..probably translated by Google or something, but dont hit Okay, or Close or anything. Just put the controller down and wait. I forget if it says "Okay" or "Close" on the box, but it should say "Leave Queue".

Theres no "try again to log in" or anything. Just wait lol.

To be honest, everyone should stop calling it a queue and start calling it a lotto.

you where not Skiped over. just the othersg ot in and fileld up the few spots leading to it being Full again