FC Chest settings are broke. Solutions for FC Bank?

Ideas suggested so far to improve the Free Company (FC) Chest:

- There are no options for "deposit" only. This means some bloke can clean out your chest.
- There are no logs for chest activities. IE if someone steals everything from the chest you don't even know who did it.
- Chest settings leave little to desired when it comes to giving higher-ranking FC members access to the Chest. At best you can slowly allow members to view inside the chest and nothing more.

- Auto stack;
- A sort button: to sort by ABC, # of items, etc
- A way to select multiple items from your inventory at once and put it into a chest (like a crtl+click listener)
- Ability to purchase more slots
- Ability to increase/decrease how much members can take from the chest (aka "withdrawal limit" setting) depending on rank. AKA members with rank 1 can only take up to 50gil and 10 items from the FC chest, etc. Also, Permissions PER chest?
- Ability to allow members limited promotion/demotion settings. So a Rank 3 member could promote someone to rank 2 or 1, but cannot promote them to the same rank or higher than themselves.
- Can we change "leader" name for the FC chest setting to "View Only" ?
- Tax or membership fee for the FC to go towards Housing, Pets, etc

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Cross-Posted from General Discussion.

Currently Free Company (FC) Chest settings are "broke": You either have Full access, View-only access, or no access.

- There are no options for "deposit" only. This means some bloke can clean out your chest.
- There are no logs for chest activities. IE if someone steals everything from the chest you don't even know who did it.
- Chest settings leave little to desired when it comes to giving higher-ranking FC members access to the Chest. At best you can slowly allow members to view inside the chest and nothing more.

With that stated, does anyone have solutions for allowing members to donate gil/items/etc to the FC without risking FC chest security? Thanks in advance!

Agree with all those points, there really needs to be a deposit option... Chest Activities would have to be its own separate log I think though, especially if like the rest of the Free Company Activities it shows up in chat options. If someone is moving a lot of items around I can see that getting very annoying very fast, personally though I'd only care to see if people are moving Gil around, thankfully you can split access to each Chest so we're keeping 1 Chest for the important stuff and leaving the rest for items we wouldn't care about being stolen.

Currently I'd say the best work around for allowing members to donate is to add everyone to your Friends List. If they want to donate, they can send you items via the Mail Mog. With that in mind, I'd really like to see the list of people you can send Mail to increased to include Free Company members instead of just people on your Friends List.

Hello,

In patch 2.1, we’ll be adding a "deposit only" authority setting for company chests, which you can set depending on a member’s rank.

Additionally, to go along with feature we are also planning to make it possible to view a deposit and withdrawal history.

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Originally Posted by Camate

Hello,

In patch 2.1, we’ll be adding a "deposit only" authority setting for company chests, which you can set depending on a member’s rank.

Additionally, to go along with feature we are also planning to make it possible to view a deposit and withdrawal history.

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Thank you, this is sorely needed.

Maybe I'm missing something, but is there also no way to sort the FC chest? Having to manually restack everything is tedius at best.

Great to hear that these changes are coming and you're listening to feedback. I would like to also request more options for upgrading the chest via FC ranking system or Gil purchase to add more slots and other possible features. Keep up the listening, we appreciate it!

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Originally Posted by Kaloran

Maybe I'm missing something, but is there also no way to sort the FC chest? Having to manually restack everything is tedius at best.

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Not that I have noticed. I would LOVE an auto stack option.

In addition to a transaction history, there should be a "Withdrawal Limit" setting.

Having the ability to limit FC members to only 1 withdrawal/day, for example, would be a great way to have new members feel like they're part of the group, while keeping a high chest security in tact.

I agree completely. Not to make this sound like copying but it would be awesome if i could set my FC withdraw limit to say 500 gil a day. That way it would help with repairs like "you know what."

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Originally Posted by Camate

...Additionally, to go along with feature we are also planning to make it possible to view a deposit and withdrawal history.

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That's the best news I've heard regarding this yet! This helps an enormous amount when regulating who has access.

The next thing I really want to see is the ability to set withdrawal limits for specific permission ranks. If we could have those ranks tied to bank access that would extremely helpful instead of having two separate ranks systems to manually attach.

While you're at it, are there any plans to remove the ability of people with promotion/demotion privilages to assign other members as higher ranks than themselves? This seemed kind of awkward when we started fiddling with it. We have the Guild Leader and the Assistant Lead, then all of the officers. The officers were able to promote/demote the second in command, and even demote themselves. This seemed very strange. I could see this being a problem with more volatile guilds.

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Originally Posted by Camate

Additionally, to go along with feature we are also planning to make it possible to view a deposit and withdrawal history.

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This is a must for shared FC inventory and gils. One must have an audit trail in order to help and track FC thief.

jc

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Originally Posted by Camate

Hello,

In patch 2.1, we’ll be adding a "deposit only" authority setting for company chests, which you can set depending on a member’s rank.

Additionally, to go along with feature we are also planning to make it possible to view a deposit and withdrawal history.

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Thanks, Camate! These options and features are desperately needed!

As others have said, it's great that the team is listening to our feedback, especially while they have their hands full with server issues.

It's extremely confusing that "view only" is called "leader".

I assumed leader was.. I dunno, a lot of access?

Another feature that would be awesome to see added to the FC is to have some kind of Tax per Rank, for example, I set a Tax of 20% to the leaders and higher ranks, and 5% to the other members, so the 20% of total Gil gained by the leader and higher members and the 5% gained by other members go to the FC Chest. That way we could set a comunity fund to purchase the house and other perks.

Thought also could be permissions per tab in the chest? Such as if you had lower level stuff to help early crafters or lower leveled players where you kept the higher value stuff on a separate tab for the more senior members?

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Originally Posted by Camate

Hello,

In patch 2.1, we’ll be adding a "deposit only" authority setting for company chests, which you can set depending on a member’s rank.

Additionally, to go along with feature we are also planning to make it possible to view a deposit and withdrawal history.

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Thanks! This is very needed :)

These are all great ideas everyone, and I'm grateful to hear from a Dev on this issue while they're experiencing so many heartaches with all the server issues. I'm going to post an updated list to the 1st post to keep everyone updated.

I don't have much knowledge when it comes to programming video games, but if it's possible to get some or any of these changes to improve the functionality and quality of this aspect of the game it would be greatly appreciated! :)


Suggestions so far:
- Auto stack;
- A sort button: to sort by ABC, # of items, etc
- A way to select multiple items from your inventory at once and put it into a chest (like a crtl+click listener)
- Ability to purchase more slots
- Ability to increase/decrease how much members can take from the chest (aka "withdrawal limit" setting) depending on rank. AKA members with rank 1 can only take up to 50gil and 10 items from the FC chest, etc. Also, Permissions PER chest?
- Ability to allow members limited promotion/demotion settings. So a Rank 3 member could promote someone to rank 2 or 1, but cannot promote them to the same rank or higher than themselves.
- Can we change "leader" name for the FC chest setting to "View Only" ?
- Tax or membership fee for the FC to go towards Housing, Pets, etc

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Originally Posted by Camate

Hello,

In patch 2.1, we’ll be adding a "deposit only" authority setting for company chests, which you can set depending on a member’s rank.

Additionally, to go along with feature we are also planning to make it possible to view a deposit and withdrawal history.

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We need LOTS more than JUST the ability to deposit...I'll help sum it up for you.

I'll make a new forum if I can also. I'd like to sum up the fixes to the FC tools i'd like to see fixed and I'm not the only one. So I'll start listing them because all I've seen is they're adding a deposit feature for FC Members and that's it. So here goes.

1. Make permissions for ranks to deposit and withdraw a number amount of stacks of items per day as well as a set amount of GIL.
2. Make it possible for officers to chat exclusively to other officers in the FC.

3. Add a sorting feature to the FC, like clicking the top of the Members page where the Names are for Alphabetical, Jobs, Level, Area, Etc.
4. Add an FC Information page where you can add your Vent / Mumble / RC server information, website, and other important FC details for FC Members, so we don't have to use the Company Board section for it all.
5. Auto stack
6. A sort button: to sort by ABC, # of items, etc
7. A way to select multiple items from your inventory at once and put it into a chest (like a crtl+click listener)

8. Ability to purchase more slots
9. Ability to allow members limited promotion/demotion settings. So a Rank 3 member could promote someone to rank 2 or 1, but cannot promote them to the same rank or higher than themselves.
10. Can we change "leader" name for the FC chest setting to "View Only" or let us change the names of those permissions since Leader and None have pretty much the same meaning in this current build.
11. Tax or membership fee for the FC to go towards Housing, Pets, etc
12. Add right click to add items to the FC Chest instead of having to drag drop then confirm each time

As I think of more, or people post more, I'll add it to this list so we can get every FC suggestion in one place and the Developers can fix it on the big 2.1 patch.

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Originally Posted by Camate

Hello,

In patch 2.1, we’ll be adding a "deposit only" authority setting for company chests, which you can set depending on a member’s rank.

Additionally, to go along with feature we are also planning to make it possible to view a deposit and withdrawal history.

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Thank god.

Hello!

As a follow-up to my previous post, I just wanted to share a couple more details about what is planned for company chests.

We will be displaying the below when items are placed or removed in company chest in a log that will be displayed:

• Name of the player who stored or removed an item/gil
• Time in which the action was performed
• The item (or gil)
• Number of items or gil
• The action performed (storage/withdrawal)

We feel this will help with the management of what's inside your chest. :D

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Originally Posted by Camate

Hello!

As a follow-up to my previous post, I just wanted to share a couple more details about what is planned for company chests.

We will be displaying the below when items are placed or removed in company chest in a log that will be displayed:

• Name of the player who stored or removed an item/gil
• Time in which the action was performed
• The item (or gil)
• Number of items or gil
• The action performed (storage/withdrawal)

We feel this will help with the management of what's inside your chest. :D

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actually we prefer if you can give us more control over like which group can only withdraw and which group can only deposit.. not both.. we need a more better settings.

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Originally Posted by Seirra_Lanzce

actually we prefer if you can give us more control over like which group can only withdraw and which group can only deposit.. not both.. we need a more better settings.

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http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post1173553

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Originally Posted by Seirra_Lanzce

actually we prefer if you can give us more control over like which group can only withdraw and which group can only deposit.. not both.. we need a more better settings.

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Actually this information is pretty awesome. Right now we're blind to know who takes what from the FC chest.

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Originally Posted by Camate

Hello!

As a follow-up to my previous post, I just wanted to share a couple more details about what is planned for company chests.

We will be displaying the below when items are placed or removed in company chest in a log that will be displayed:

• Name of the player who stored or removed an item/gil
• Time in which the action was performed
• The item (or gil)
• Number of items or gil
• The action performed (storage/withdrawal)

We feel this will help with the management of what's inside your chest. :D

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https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/i..._mFBWzyV5EfuVg

So we know if someone runs off with all the FC's stuff. But can we do anything about it? Will we be able to report them and get the companies stuff back?

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Originally Posted by Cabalabob

So we know if someone runs off with all the FC's stuff. But can we do anything about it? Will we be able to report them and get the companies stuff back?

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Thats why there will be a deposit only or withdraw only option so you can manage properly.

I wholeheartedly agree that we need better settings and more control over whether people can deposit gil or take it out. Our FC had 125,000gil stolen from it (the total we had at the time), and we will never know who took it out since GM's never responded to my many tickets regarding the issue.... sadly everyone who access to withdraw the gil Ive known for years and its difficult to believe that any of them would do such a thing, but it caused me to block off the gil tab entirely to all but 2 other folks...

Please SE. Rethink your FC controls. This latest update is a step in the right direction but we still need more control.

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Originally Posted by GinTama

Thats why there will be a deposit only or withdraw only option so you can manage properly.

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What I'm trying to say is with the knowing who took out what, what's the point of knowing who took all your stuff if they won't get punished and you won't get your stuff back? I'm just asking if a GM or someone can do something about your stuff being taken now that there will be a record of them taking it.

yes- please make a setting where people can only DEPOSIT gil/items

and then make a setting, where CERTAIN people (i.e. Leader and maybe officers) can withdraw gil/items.

my Free Company's chest is Empty because anyone who can put in, can also take out... which means, I'm not allowing anyone to put in anything, because they might just get it stolen by someone else.

Someone has already done this, but I am going to repeat what they've done because it was in Camate's post but I still see complaints about things that are going to be addressed.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post1173553

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Originally Posted by Yunnie

yes- please make a setting where people can only DEPOSIT gil/items

and then make a setting, where CERTAIN people (i.e. Leader and maybe officers) can withdraw gil/items.

my Free Company's chest is Empty because anyone who can put in, can also take out... which means, I'm not allowing anyone to put in anything, because they might just get it stolen by someone else.

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Originally Posted by Seirra_Lanzce

actually we prefer if you can give us more control over like which group can only withdraw and which group can only deposit.. not both.. we need a more better settings.

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Originally Posted by Vespar

I wholeheartedly agree that we need better settings and more control over whether people can deposit gil or take it out. Our FC had 125,000gil stolen from it (the total we had at the time), and we will never know who took it out since GM's never responded to my many tickets regarding the issue.... sadly everyone who access to withdraw the gil Ive known for years and its difficult to believe that any of them would do such a thing, but it caused me to block off the gil tab entirely to all but 2 other folks...

Please SE. Rethink your FC controls. This latest update is a step in the right direction but we still need more control.

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http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post1173553

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Originally Posted by Cabalabob

What I'm trying to say is with the knowing who took out what, what's the point of knowing who took all your stuff if they won't get punished and you won't get your stuff back? I'm just asking if a GM or someone can do something about your stuff being taken now that there will be a record of them taking it.

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I doubt the GM will police this kind of thing, unless maybe the account was compromised. If you have fears of this happening, don't give people you don't trust permission to withdraw items from the bank. That's the whole purpose of having permissions at all. Require each member with bank access have 2-factor authentication. Don't put all your valuables in one place.