Kick player from group? Black list commands?

Just zoned into a Castrum Meridianum and we have a tank who has been afk at the start since zoning in and hasn't said a word.

Is there no way to kick someone like this? I tried adding them to the black list as well but have no idea what command that is either.

Tried /blacklist add NAME and /blist add NAME but no luck.

We managed to finish the instance but he left as soon as he got his reward...

This desperately needs to be added. had a tank in Hardmode Ifrit today who was a POS running in his dps gear instead of his tank AF gear and insisted, after both me and the other healer told him he was taking too much damage, that he was fine. Absolutely ridiculous that there is no kicking from duty finder groups.

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Originally Posted by Lazarou742

This desperately needs to be added. had a tank in Hardmode Ifrit today who was a POS running in his dps gear instead of his tank AF gear and insisted, after both me and the other healer told him he was taking too much damage, that he was fine. Absolutely ridiculous that there is no kicking from duty finder groups.

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I'll join this as well. There should be a vote to kick option from DF groups.

So far in my adventures in Eorzea I haven't encountered any one I wish to kick. Sure I've had a few moody gits but it's kinda excepted and if the person said he was going to BRB I don't mind waiting but only for a few mins.

Now the kick feature I can see the good and bad of it. The bad would be if say you and another player fall out over what ever then he kicks you even though you done nothing wrong and was doing your job. If anything I think I would leave and find another group. I mean to kick someone would require a just reason to do so, like AFK for 20 mins or simply not doing their job right and it's your 26 retry.

yea we need kick from duty finder with vote not just the leader choose and kick

The Voting system I like the idea of.

Yes a lack of AFK and booting system is not in place yet. :(

It's a feature that desperately needs to be added as it will help alleviate some of players from the game when they are not playing or being rude.

The only way a vote kick could work is call GM to investigate if someone is really afk, rude, trolling. Otherway it will be definitely abused to kick players that roll for same gear, doesnt perform optimally according to a parser or first-timers wanting to watch cutscenes in last two story dungeons.

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Originally Posted by IzumiRaito

The only way a vote kick could work is call GM to investigate if someone is really afk, rude, trolling. Otherway it will be definitely abused to kick players that roll for same gear, doesnt perform optimally according to a parser or first-timers wanting to watch cutscenes in last two story dungeons.

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So you think we should let trolls/afkers get away with that shit and get rewarded for it, while hurting other players rather then risk it being abused by a few jerks..... Your just enabling trollers and afkers and useless players.

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Originally Posted by IzumiRaito

The only way a vote kick could work is call GM to investigate if someone is really afk, rude, trolling. Otherway it will be definitely abused to kick players that roll for same gear, doesnt perform optimally according to a parser or first-timers wanting to watch cutscenes in last two story dungeons.

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I would rather have a kick system that could potentially be abused then no kick system and have to deal with afk or extremely bad players that prevent you from finishing the dungeon.

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Originally Posted by IzumiRaito

The only way a vote kick could work is call GM to investigate if someone is really afk, rude, trolling. Otherway it will be definitely abused to kick players that roll for same gear, doesnt perform optimally according to a parser or first-timers wanting to watch cutscenes in last two story dungeons.

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A lot of MMO's these days use a vote kick type system. I've run well over 100+ dungeons under these systems and not once have I seen it abused. Does it happen? I'm sure it does and I've heard stories, but generally, for the most part, people are good and understanding. Those that don't want to deal with gear rolls, lower than they want dps, cutscene watchers, new players generally just form up their own groups and avoid the auto group finders.

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Originally Posted by Little_Gray

I would rather have a kick system that could potentially be abused then no kick system and have to deal with afk or extremely bad players that prevent you from finishing the dungeon.

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I totally agree.

The lack of any way to kick someone from a group is a ridiculous omission. Last night we had someone in our FC lose his connection and not be able to get back on, and our only option was to zone out, kick him, and restart the dungeon.

Yes, i agree that some kind of voting kick system is needed.

I also want a vote kick system. Running Castrum Meridianum as well, the main tank went afk on the 2 colossi before the final boss without saying a word, we all thought he was watching the cut-scene but after 10 minutes nothing changed. We didn't have a way to kick him out and since he didn't d/c then we couldn't do anything, we had to wait until he finally came back.

The worst part is that these people still get rewards whether or not they helped in the dungeon at all, you can go afk in the beginning and the rest have to either leave and get the 15m penalty (the first one to leave) or try to complete the dungeon without the afker. Those that spent an hour waiting for the queue to pop will have to suck it up and wait another hour.

Yes we need this

Def need this pretty bad

Not having this feature causes 10x more problems then getting trolled by some people (who really cares about getting kicked out of a DF group anyways, like I would care about that)

Seriously why is there no kicking option?

Why is the system siding with poor performing players?

Please add a kick system, we need proper management.

I've played wow for years and I've probably ran into party drama maybe 3 times in pubs. I've also never had problems with loot rolling need/greed.

Why limit party features just to fend off abusers?

Let people be people and figure it out themselves. Some players are just bad, annoying, or afk.

I agree. I have had some runs with terrible troll tanks (one who refused to repair his gear because "it provides more of a challenge"). The way it's setup now is so that 3 or more people can't gang up on a single person and be "mean" to them. However, what it ended up doing was allowing one person to be "mean" to 3, which is much worse. Especially since I notice it is usually tanks that are either bad/trolling, who have instant queues anyway. So when they want to play seriously they can immediately get back into a dungeon. While I, as a dps, have to wait 30-45 min (+15 if I leave the dungeon because I didn't want to waste my time for something I know wont be successful).

A majority vote system would be the ideal solution. Chances are if one person is a jerk,the other two wont vote just to let some random guy get a monopoly on gear. So really the only time you'll see it abused is if it is 3 friends grouped together, which I don't think will happen enough to warrant a real complaint.

Why teaching someone new how to play when u can just kick him?

DF was created to give casuals content accessibility. And vote kick without safety mechanisms will be used mainly against them.

I bet SE will not risk casuals getting kicked from last two story dungeons for watching cutscenes because some elitist pricks want to speedrun them for tomes.

Another safety mechanism apart from live GM judge could be GM investigation after complaint. If the kicked one complains and is found innocent, all players that voted "yes" are given 6h jail punishment, pay compensation to the kicked one from their gametime pool and potential completion prizes, the player that provoked vote pays double. However if GM finds the kicked one really commited punishable crime, he gets appropriate punishment.

Duty Finder is that, Duty finder. You deal with what you got. If you don't want this to happen don't use Duty Finder. The second a kick from group option comes in the "elitist" will kick anyone they feel is "under par" for their level of play.

I don't like running into problems like you guys have ran into, but I still don't want a kick option. They just need a timer on afk. Afk for 10 mins your logout and that fixes that problem.

Much needed "vote to kick" system!!! One player can and will ruin your whole dungeon experience. For those that can only dps, it's worse for them since they sit in queue for an hour+ and then get shat on by some dbag in the dungeon.

Agreed, not having a group kick command is a major oversight.

Yesterday we had a paladin tank that joined Wanderer`s Palace, ran to box where he got his sword, then went AFK.

We had a BRD troll in castrim last night. Talking gibberish in the log, pulling mobs that can be dismissed, attempting to lock out half the party in boss rooms by pulling early, overall a real mess and just enjoyed causing chaos. I looked them up on Lodestone. Saying song use DF is ridiculous, it's there to use. Very difficuilt situation for players.

I think it needs a report to GM and if they are found guilty then a warning then a ban.

AFKers difficuilt to deal with, you can make an excuse for your reason.

We don't need any option to kick people. As Kargion said, once that option comes into play, the elitist pricks will start to abuse it. Been there, done that in other mmos. Not been kicked myself, but seen other elitist pricks voting the second they get a player into the party who's either new to the dungeon, or makes a mistake etc.

I'd rather have an auto-kick system in place that boots afk players after 15 minutes since there's no benefits of staying logged in 24/7 anyways.

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Originally Posted by Facespasm

We don't need any option to kick people. the elitist pricks will start to abuse it. Been there, done that in other mmos. N seen other elitist pricks voting the second they get a player into the party who's either new to the dungeon, or makes a mistake etc.

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I call BS.

A vote kick is a majority call, meaning more people then not say to kick, this means at least 2 people are being mean to 1 person. Now this is bad for the 1 person if in fact they are doing nothing wrong, however, with no vote kick system all it takes is a single person, 1, to make 3 people unhappy, and most of the time its the tank with instant ques whos being the meanie.

I just had a tank go afk because we had a lvl 50 trying to run the dungeon to unlock another part of the game, i believe he said AB. The tank refused to play for no meaningful reason and was mean to the other 3 group members. So as you can see the system already has in place a way to abuse it. Players are asking for a way to remove those who abuse the current system and by making it vote kick it reduces the chances of someone getting kicked for no reason.

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Originally Posted by Facespasm

We don't need any option to kick people. As Kargion said, once that option comes into play, the elitist pricks will start to abuse it. Been there, done that in other mmos. Not been kicked myself, but seen other elitist pricks voting the second they get a player into the party who's either new to the dungeon, or makes a mistake etc..

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So you think the "elitists" are worse than the tank I had today who let the healer die and when told what they did wrong threw a temper tantrum in front of the final boss, making the decision to purposefully just stand there doing nothing? I mean seriously, as a DPS I have 30-45 min queues. While annoying, I accept those times because it comes with the territory. What I won't accept is having an extra 30-45 min wasted doing a dungeon that I won't be able to finish because ONE person threw a hissyfit and there was no way to remove them and get someone else.

This type of system, in my experience, tends to rebound harder on DPS than on tanks and healers, because they are easier to replce. Kick your tank or healer, you might have to wait a while to get a replacement. Kick your DPS, you can have a replacement more or less instantly. This is hard on DPS because they already wait longer for their groups than tanks and healers, and being viewed as "replaceable" or "interchangeable" is very demoralizing.

The only way I could get behind a kick feature is if it was limited to players with AFK or DC status. Otherwise, I'd be very afraid I'd wait forty minutes for a queue just to be replaced in the hopes that the next DPS would be an "upgrade". Sorry if I'm cynical, experience taught me this a while ago.

Please at the very least we need a way to kick disconnected players. Today someone disconnected right before the last boss. We waited 10 minutes and then just went for it. Took us 25 minutes to kill the last boss with just 3 people (and the 4th person was disconnected the whole time with no way to kick him). This is quite ridiculous.

I left the dungeon last night after the thm pulled mobs and attacked them. Not to sleep, but to kill. I was playing my level 26 glad at the time. He then yelled at me for not being able to maintain aggro. 15 minute penalty is Nothing compaired to going through an entire dungeon with this kind of player. I entered the dungeon after the 15 minutes was up and found friendly helpful people and had a great time.

Moral of the story is: dont be an idiot unless you like tanking in that fine cloth armor.

I concur need afk kick mechanism but as for group kick and or being able to kick i doubt that gonna happen. It is why it was made this way I think. team up and vote not gonna work cause the 3 of you or 7 of you from same FC and your on TS or whatever your gonna kick someone who can not do very well again i think it was made this way for that reason. I hate to say it but the leave option is the only one though, it really sucks to start over but I would rather start over then wipe 15times on boss cause someone afk.

the afk thing in dungeon defiantly needs addressing 5min no movement or communication kick, though may have to take DC in to consideration too idk something needs to be done.

Ha! Now we have kicking i got the bad end of it.

Had a genius dragoon blaming our whitemage for lack of cures when she was dead during the king moogle fight.

(Yaka Fu) heal no good go quitter
(Akarusa Sol) heal died
(Akarusa Sol tank failed
(Vilyla Artanias) Yes
(Vilyla Artanias) king went for me
(And im pretty sure that aint suposse to happen
(Akarusa Sol) its not
(Impo'sters Sw) No one was on king from wot i saw

Fight began again and the blackmage moogle ran rampant.

(Akarusa Sol) ya know drg can stun lol

He forced a vote to kick me and the reason was (cheating).

(I imagine the tanks where a bit sulky from my comment and i know the healer and Imp'osters did not vote to kick)
this system is flawed. :/

Name and shame -> http://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...acter/1584711/

So glad we have this option, only I wish I used it earlier in an instance when I realised too late we had a botter who was constantly pulling ahead of me whilst I was tank and ignoring adds during boss fights. I thought someone else was pulling first but nobody would say anything, it was like half the party were botters. Even the previous party was exactly the same, people pulling and not talking or answering. I ditched them when I realised what a dreadful group it was.

A SCH wasn't healing and was afk on the side so we asked PT leader to kick. He even - came back once and wiped us. After that we tried to kick him People died, but some of his friends - friendly PT members hit no *twice*. Apparently they were trolling hard...

One of the PT members said they reported it to GM, hope they were taken care of.

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Originally Posted by Tarutantrum

Had a genius dragoon blaming our whitemage for lack of cures when she was dead during the king moogle fight.

(Yaka Fu) heal no good go quitter
(Akarusa Sol) heal died
(Akarusa Sol tank failed
(Vilyla Artanias) Yes
(Vilyla Artanias) king went for me
(And im pretty sure that aint suposse to happen
(Akarusa Sol) its not
(Impo'sters Sw) No one was on king from wot i saw

Fight began again and the blackmage moogle ran rampant.

(Akarusa Sol) ya know drg can stun lol

He forced a vote to kick me and the reason was (cheating).

(I imagine the tanks where a bit sulky from my comment and i know the healer and Imp'osters did not vote to kick)
this system is flawed. :/

Name and shame -> http://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...acter/1584711/

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Tarutantrum, you do know SE has strict regulations regarding to abuse of vote kick. This was clearly the case. You should be reporting this to the GM about it. Main reason was the false accusations of "cheating" when it's clear you weren't, and him being a jerk. So do hope you report him as we have no place for jerks such as those in your group.