How many EU players does SE need to get us to play properly?

I'm very sorry about crushing white knighters hopes and dreams, but even to people like me, who love Final Fantasy, who gave enough chance on 1.0 (went to 50) just because they knew 2.0 would eventually go out, who are 50 in 2.0 and are trying to ignore all the problems that the game has, this server lag is unbearable in high content, and we only have PVE now, i can't even imagine how this is going to work in PVP.

It's much better than in 1.0, that's correct, but this is unplayable to people that played many other MMO's that don't have this problem, even if you use the argument that "if you move really really fast you dont get hit by the aoe's", just the breaking the immersion that is ur char being completely safe somewhere and being hit by one million damage for no apparent reason its incredible.

You can say it's the animations that are crap, that the circles are on the time of the cast bars, that's true, but that's another question,the 150ms that the best connections in EU get on Canada servers make all the difference.

When you are healing its even worse, the ammount of times i've healed someone as in my cast bar ended and after like half a second they die and i check and my heal didn't go in, cmon, and you can notice that very well if you are doing something like summoning mount and walking, as you can very well start walking in the beggining of the cast and it only cancels at the end of it, or you can walk when the cast is over and it still cancels it.

I don't know what's the ammount of players that SE needs to have playing on EU to think about renting server space in EU like most of the successful online games in the world (LoL even has 2 different EU zones) but right now it seems like they just dont give a crap, and people will slowly get very tired of this lag, when they're trying a first kill and die to lag, or the tank dies to lag, or cant dispel in time cause of lag, and all that stuff.

Specially on PVP.

/whiteknightshieldON

What speed is you,re connection?

Just some random population data from wikipedia:

Japan: 126,659,683
Europe: 739,165,030
USA: 316,577,000
Canada: 33,476,688
Oceania: 35,670,000

Europe has more population that the other 3 areas together.

map: JP > US > EU

gl

I wonder if they will ever make an EU Datacenter since they already made it NA/EU in launch. Something as important as this would've happened before launch if they actually wanted to do it.

Odd I live in europe and I have 0 lag issues, Ifrit for instance is a joke right now compared to 1.0 for me.

Yoshi P. mentioned before that they might add more centers depending on "many different factors" (was an interview or letter of the producer, no longer remember). Hopefully they will if enough EU subscribe as I do still suffer from this issue as well. It's much better than in 1.0, but I also have a 150 ms ping and sometime I'm out of the AoE zone for I'd say half a second and still get hit.

It's manageable and I like to think of it like SE flattering EU by assuming they have quicker reflex for the lack of having anything better to feel about it. What scares me the most is when I start doing eng game fights. Garuda in 1.0 was horrible to me and Ifrit as well because of this and I wonder if I'll be able to play in The Great Labyrinth of Bahamut efficiently, added to the fact that I hate looking like a newb because I cannot seem to evade attacks.

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Originally Posted by Dannythm

Just some random population data from wikipedia:

Japan: 126,659,683
Europe: 739,165,030
USA: 316,577,000
Canada: 33,476,688
Oceania: 35,670,000

Europe has more population that the other 3 areas together.

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Not helping the case... EU has by a significant amount far less than NA or JP. So taking into account the percentage of population... But anyway, you're statistics are skewed. Do you knot know the difference between a county and a continent? Furthermore "EU" is not Europe... the largest population in the game is English speaking (far more than JP, FR, and GR, put together) and you can guess where the majority of that is coming from by your own statistics.

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Not helping the case... EU has by a significant amount far less than NA or JP. So taking into account the percentage of population... But anyway, you're statistics are skewed. Do you knot know the difference between a county and a continent? Furthermore "EU" is not Europe... the largest population in the game is English speaking (far more than JP, FR, and GR, put together) and you can guess where the majority of that is coming from by your own statistics.

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I'm talking about potential customers if SE supported their games accordingly in the continent of Europe.

Alas they never have, so it's normal that there are less players when in fact, there should be way more.

I'm wondering, when ARR is released in China (Yoshi said that sometime ago), how many servers and what kind of support they will provide there.

Oh wait... this relaunch is just a beta for the china release of the game!

I completely agree with OP and i am tired of being treated as 2nd grade customer.
If SE does not move EU servers to a more appropriate location in Europe in a few months i will probably stop subscribing cause i really dont feel like fighting against latency.

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Not helping the case... EU has by a significant amount far less than NA or JP....

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Is that so? Source please as I got this one, it's only about the legacy players though: http://www.4gamer.net/games/199/G019924/20130823089/. From Google Translate (so don't mind the horrible syntax):

Interviewer: The European, or would there are legacy players how much.
Yoshida: You have to answer it because it is difficult or little say in the data at any point, that there are legacy players of almost equal to Japan. The most common in North America, it will be about two times that of Japan

Now assuming the non legacy generally follow the same rule, your statement "EU has by a significant amount far less than NA" is true, but "EU has by a significant amount far less than NA or JP" is totally false.

So this is why I get hit by almost every aoe attack even though I move out of them.

I also suffer the same lag you speak of, I probably ping around 200 ms. Ifrit battle is painful. On screen I'm out of the circles but I still get hit regardless. I will probably avoid the hard mode dungeons because I see myself raging a lot at the screen if it happens

Not even going to bother with pvp, the ping will just ruin it,

I would love to have real European servers . If we start a petition then who knows, perhaps they will listen!! :P

Can we get an official answer on this? Not stuff like we ''might'' do it in future but a straight answer whether we will get real EU servers or not!

To the guy saying Ifrit is very easy:

I agree, its easy, done it HM with no problems, because i'm used to the lag, its not very enjoyable tho, like everything on this game that requires reflex.

Garuda HM its hard in EU, and the green tornados are SO frustrating, even if you move the MOMENT they appear and you are just in the edge When they appear (since you are near the safezone) u'll get hit and knockbacked even if you were already 1km away from it.